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Author Topic:   Is America a Christian nation?
nos482
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Message 2 of 78 (17362)
09-13-2002 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mammuthus
09-13-2002 9:44 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Mammuthus:
Is it?
No, it isn't. It is a country where the dominate religious belief system is Christianity, but it is not a theocracy.
For the USA to be a Christian Nation it would be the same as Iran is an Islamic Nation where all of the laws are based on their religious laws.
For example; If the USA were a theocracy other beliefs would not be tolerated, there would be no freedom of speech, and most sciences would be outlawed as being heresies and blasphemous. There would be no truth allowed other than that of the State's religion.
Most of us here would have been "questioned" by the Inquisition long ago and most likely put to death as well.
[This message has been edited by nos482, 09-13-2002]

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nos482
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Message 6 of 78 (17377)
09-13-2002 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Mammuthus
09-13-2002 10:37 AM


Originally posted by Mammuthus:
Hi nos,I brought the thread up because of an argument I am having with tokyojim. I agree with most of what you say. One thing though is that both Britain and Germany have state sponsored religions without the effects you mentioned.
It actually has had the beneficial effect that most people stopped believing (i.e. think for themselves) or at the very least fundamentalism is not so rampant...and there are thriving communities of muslims, atheists, etc.
But they are still not theocracies. Do they call themselves Chrisitian Nations or do they call themselves democracies?
Not that I advocate a theocracy in the US. The people advocate it would most likely be in favor of all the negative things you mentioned.
I know. People like Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, etc, etc.

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nos482
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Message 7 of 78 (17378)
09-13-2002 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Mammuthus
09-13-2002 11:59 AM


Originally posted by Mammuthus:
Hi Joe,
High beer (and all other alcoholic beverages)prices is a general problem in scandanavian countries. I found the prices outrageous in Denmark and Sweden as well. I was in Helsinki a few months ago and it was also really expensive....and lousy.
German beer is not so expensive, comes in about 4,000 different varieties and is really good. There is one festival during lent where the monks brew Starkbier (Nockerberg festival) that tastes really good and has about 10% alcohol. I have never seen so many trashed people. I assume the monks were so depressed being monks that they found away to lose consciousness completely in an enjoyable and tasty way ....
Cheers,
Mammuthus
Canadian beer is expensive and good. American beer is cheaper and it is like making love in a canoe....

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nos482
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Message 19 of 78 (17524)
09-16-2002 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Mammuthus
09-16-2002 5:31 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mammuthus:
however, none of the creationists have addressed this thread
cheers,
Mammuthus[/B][/QUOTE]
Maybe you should invite Wordswordman into this discussion. He is a TRUE believer and will jump through hops (Actually he'll bring in the entire circus) to make everything you say fit his religious beliefs. And he is in total denial of anything you present to him in the contray as well.
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nos482
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Message 22 of 78 (17548)
09-16-2002 4:07 PM
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09-16-2002 10:11 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr_Tazimus_maximus:
I second that one, Wordswordman would bring an interesting perspective to this debate. I can not believe that he actually admitted that Adams and Eves children would have had to commit incest to populate the earth, and then claimed that it would not have been a sin then .
[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, he makes gene90 look like an atheist.

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