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I think I would not agree with your three-part premise. I would say that the effect of each action is the cause of another.(Cause: Jesus preached his message.)Effect:
(Cause: some people didn't like it.)Effect:
(Cause: Those people crucified him.)Effect:
(Cause: A belief system built up around this)Effect:
... et cetera.Let me ask you this:If I am walking in the woods, and trip on a tree branch and break my ankle, what is the cause, what is the effect, and what is the consequence? And what becomes of the consequence? Is that the end of the chain? How do we determine where one chain ends and another begins?JonEdited by Jon, : Subtitle & signature

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In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ _En el mundo hay multitud de idiomas, y cada uno tiene su propio significado. - I Corintios 14:10
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ _A devout people with its back to the wall can be pushed deeper and deeper into hardening religious nativism, in the end even preferring national suicide to religious compromise. - Colin Wells Sailing from Byzantium

Thank you for not answering the rest of my question:

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And what becomes of the consequence? Is that the end of the chain? How do we determine where one chain ends and another begins?

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If you can't answer these questions, then you cannot claim that there is a distinct cause, effect, consequence, and so your enumeration of each, then, becomes invalid.To substantiate your assigning of cause, effect, consequence, you need to first show that they exist as three distinct things, and how that in doing so they allow the world to run.Jon

Prove.
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Billiard ball A is rolling toward billiard ball B. Start here:Jon entered room (a); thus Jon saw two billiard balls (b); thus Jon pushed one (c); thus it rolled (d); thus it hit another billiard ball (e); thus the second ball rolled (f₁) & the first slowed down (f₂).
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Can you tell me which is an effect that isn't also a cause; which is a cause that isn't also an effect and which is an effect that isn't also a consequence; and which is a consequence that isn't also a cause?All causes are effects. All effects are causes. There's no room for a third distinction”there's hardly room for the first two. Again, you have to demonstrate why there should be a distinction. You have to show us that there is an actual difference that should distinguish consequence from cause and/or effect. Repeating your argument over and over and over again not only doesn't help your position as well as stalling the discussion, it is also against forum guidelines.Jon

You might be interested in a book I've been reading that deals with the subject of Jesus. I think you would find reading it to be quite helpful to your understanding of some of the points you've mentioned here. It could also help clear up some misunderstandings. Book Link.Jon

Cause: Reckless driving.
Effect: (Unknown)
Conseq: Car accident.So, now you're missing the effect, which you earlier stated as one of three major parts in your sequence. Tell me, can't we simply take the consequence up here to be an effect? Oh... turns out we can. But, I'm confused, now. If we can rearrange our thoughts so that the consequence becomes the effect, then why do we distinguish between them in the rst place? So, we can also relate the cause as an effect? Well, then, what does that say of my previous post:

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All causes are effects. All effects are causes.

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Do you agree that all causes are effects, and that all effects are causes? Crystal Two is even simpler, though not as round. We all mustn't be very good lateral thinkers If the real topic is the 'conclusion' you've drawn from this bunk premise, then no.Jon