Lebanon In End Time Bible Prophecy

I personally don't see what is so special about people actively trying to 'fullfill' a prophecy (their interpretation of it at least).They are just taking their goals out of their interpretation of a book.

Begging your pardon.. but if you want, you can go on the net, to the tourism section, and see that Tyre is a thriving community of fisherman... If it was uninhabintated, I guess those Tyre fisherman they showed getting drunk while the israeli rockets were falling on Hezbullah targets were a figment of the imagination.Here is a link to the modern Tyre. It has some of the roman age ruins, but it also has modern streets and people.Tyre (Sour) City, LebanonEdited by ramoss, : No reason given.

It is obvious to me that you are quibbling to try to insist that a failed prophecy was fullfilled. The section of the city on the island
was not 'taken to the ground'. THe prophecy specifically had to do with King Neb to begin with, and what alexander did was irrelavent ot the prophecy, and Ezekiel himself admits he wasn't able to.I mean why don't you read what Ezekiel really says, rather than distort things beyond all reality?

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"I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. They will scrape away her rubble and make her a bare rock. Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishnets, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. She will become plunder for the nations, and her settlements on the mainland will be ravaged by the sword. For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army.

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See, it doesn't say alexander, it says 'Nebuchadnezzar'.And eziekel admits he was wrong too

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"The word of YAHWEH came to me: "Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon drove his army in a hard campaign against Tyre; every head was rubbed bare and every shoulder made raw. Yet he and his army got no reward from the campaign he led against Tyre. Therefore thus says YAHWEH GOD: Behold, I will give the land of Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; and he shall carry off its wealth and despoil it and plunder it; and it shall be the wages for his army. I have given him the land of Egypt as his recompense for which he labored, because they worked for me, says YAHWEH GOD."

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Of course, Nebuchadnezzar didn't succeed against Egypt either.. but that is another story.

Not only that, but the prophecy specifically mentions that King Neb would be the one to do it.

The fact of that matter is that the passages in Eziekel says King Neb.No matter how you try to wiggle out of that one, you can not change the words that were written.You can, (and are) , ignoring what is written, attempt to explain away what is written, but you are not dealing with that is written.For you to say the 'prophecy' happened, you have to look at the prophecy,and say 'that isn't what Ezekiel really meant'.You may now start your rationalizatoin process to try to explain what Eziekal write isn't what he meant.

Begging your pardon, but the Revelation of John is dated between 90 and 95 C.E. Ken Gentry is just plain wrong.The place he got his 'TH.D' (if you can call it that), the
Whitefield Theological Seminary, is not an accredited university.No one from the mainstream scholarship thinks that the book of Revelation is from before 70 C.E.Edited by ramoss, : No reason given.

Repeating things over and over again doesn't make it any truer.I would suggest that you read it in context, but I think that your mind is made up.

Show where Gentry is right. It is he that is making the claim that is outside the belief of the mainstream.COnsidering the 'quality' of his background,claiming it is true because he said it is known as the logical fallacy of 'appeal to authority'.I don't see how claiming someone who got their degree from a paper mill is more qualified than dozens that got their degrees in a more stringent
educational environment.

You are missing a few pieces of information1) Eziekel was specifically talking about King Neb leading the assult against Tyre. That did not happen, and Eziekel acknowledges that.2)The book of Daniel was not written by Daniel, but was written between 165 and 160 bce.The Septigant that is refered to before that period of time specifically says that it was the Torah, and that would not include the Book of Daniel ((Or eziekel for that matter).

Tell me, is there some reason I should accept a physic professor who teaches at an univserity that is not accredited by a place that is reconised by the US dept of education as being legit for a reinterpreting about Tyre?He is a physic professor at trinity which is accredited by the The National Association of Private, Nontraditional Schools & Colleges.NAPNSC has been, for more than 20 years, a legitimate effort at establishing an accrediting agency for nontraditional schools. NAPNSC has failed in its 7 or so attempts at gaining recognition from the US Dept. of Education.

No,I was just pointing out your use of the logical fallacy of appeal to authority.From the references you cut and paste, I see no reason to accept anything he claimed. All verbosity, and no substance.His explaination does not match what is written in Eziekel in context.I mean, the whole basis of his arguement is trying to parse the text of Ezeikal to try to seperate the nations from King Neb. The history of that is related from Jacob Katzenstein has nothing to do with the supposed prophecy. It is just an attempt to redefine the prophecy by Bloom, not something that is written by Katzenstein.Bloom fails totally. He fails because you can't dissocate one verse from what preceeds and follows it. The attempt to isolate the verses about King Neb from what comes before it and what comes after it is a vain attempt to rationalise things away.Also, trying to bring in the motivation of the troops not getting paid is merely a distraction. That does not change the fact that Tyre did not fall to Neb, but only tells the reason Neb couldn't do it.