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Message 24 of 178 (338428)
08-07-2006 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by ringo
08-07-2006 7:39 PM


It's the old tactic of declaring a bridge that gets halfway across the river a partial success.

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Message 31 of 178 (340788)
08-17-2006 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by ringo
08-17-2006 2:57 AM


Buz writes:
Escatology is a science. You need to do the homework....
Scatology is a science and certainly seems like what is being practiced in most of the prophecy threads.
EsCHatology is NOT a science by any means. It is the study of End-Times theories however it is closer to history or philosophy than to science.

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Message 36 of 178 (341478)
08-19-2006 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
08-19-2006 6:21 PM


The point Buz
is that there is NO Science of EsCHatology. It is NOT a science by any means. It is the study of End-Times theories however it is closer to history or philosophy than to science, closer to science fiction than anything else.
The whole end times stuff is built on nothing but a base of soggy paper and fantasy. Russia is NOT mentioned in any prophecy, has no plans to invade Israel, is a supporter of Israel, does business with Israel, and was in NO WAY a supplier of Hezbollah. To say that Russia was involved just because some Russian Anti-Tank missles were used (which by the way Israel should have expected and was probably the biggest embarassment of the conflict as far as the Military was concerned) would also indict the US since some Hezbollah fighters use AR-16s and some of the drones they used were of US design.
The beauty of End Time Prophecy is that it is so vague that folk can make it mean anything. That is also the threat.

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Message 46 of 178 (344487)
08-28-2006 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 9:43 PM


Re: And now for something completely different
Example. Tyre & Sidon...prophesied that multinational forces in two separate assaults would tear down Tyre and scrape it's foundations into the sea...done...the second assault by Alexander the Great who got so mad at their escape to the Island of Sidon that he took all the remains of the city and built a causeway out to Sidon and killed them all. Look it up and try to refute it.
You gonna have a hard time selling that old chestnut at this site. It might fly on some but sure won't fly here.
Hint (look on map and see where Sidon is)
Hint 2 (read some of the biographies of Alex)
Hint 3 (check and see why the fortress of Tyre was still standing and functional less than two decades later)
Hint 4 (check and see why it was STILL standing and functional when the Crusaders showed up)

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Message 48 of 178 (344494)
08-28-2006 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 10:17 PM


Re: And now for something completely different
Lets toss this one on the ashheap then we can move on to the others. But I have NEVER seen someone who has been able to support ANY Biblical Prophecy lessen they were made after the fact.
Tyre is most certainly occupied today, and has been continuously since long before the Bible was written. For a recent discussion of the Tyre saga here (these things tend to come up pretty regularly) see Message 1.
give your sources...National Geographic has a pictorial about a decade ago about Tyre still being uninhabited.
Doubt that VERY much. Try Google Earth and look for yourself.

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Message 50 of 178 (344497)
08-28-2006 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 10:29 PM


Re: And now for something completely different
You claimed Alexander did not assault Tyre...
Nope, never made such a claim.

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Message 53 of 178 (344503)
08-28-2006 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 10:31 PM


Re: And another historian
Sure, go on. None of those change the facts.

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Message 55 of 178 (344519)
08-28-2006 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 10:59 PM


Re: And another historian
No Alexander DID not build the causeway out to Sidon. Sidon is another town to the north and was actually an ally of Alex.
Alex filnally made a breach in the wall. But He DID NOT level Tyre, and even left the magistrates in charge after he worshipped in the Temple there.
Tyre was never scrubbed down to rock and NEVER stopped functioning as a city and a fortress.
You can try to sell that stuff if you want but that dog ain't gonna hunt here.
Did you even read the thread Message 1?

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Message 57 of 178 (344524)
08-28-2006 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 11:14 PM


Re: And another historian
None of them disagree with me. You just are reading what YOU want and not what they or the prophecy said.
Look, this is an old canard we been over a zillion times. If you want to believe it, fine. If you want more info read the thread. But you ain't selling that snake-oil here, leastwise not to me.
Message 1

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Message 62 of 178 (344649)
08-29-2006 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Brian
08-29-2006 7:47 AM


Re: ISP
No, it is not Ray, but the argument is still simply absurd. I provided the link to the thread where we discussed Tyre in depth at least three times, but his only response was that the thread was irrelevant. If he wishes to go on believing that Tyre was scraped down to bare rock suitable only to dry nets, then that is fine. The fact that not one of his "sources" even hinted that was the case says volumes.
One last link to the thread.
Message 1

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Message 68 of 178 (345014)
08-30-2006 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by ReformedRob
08-30-2006 12:36 AM


Re: jars claim and others mistakes
No, the Biblical prophecy was that Tyre would be destroyed and scraped down to bare rock suitable only for drying nets.
That simply never happened. If you want to go on believing that it did, fine.

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Message 70 of 178 (345020)
08-30-2006 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by ramoss
08-30-2006 10:52 AM


Re: jars claim and others mistakes
I know that but I give them some wiggle room cause it's fun watching them dance. I particularly enjoy them talking about how "Waves" will come like Nebbi and Alex were two fronts of one battle.

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Message 126 of 178 (345708)
09-01-2006 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by purpledawn
09-01-2006 11:50 AM


Re: Island was the Main City of Tyre
Doesn't much matter.
The military target would be the fortifications. That is the Island Fortress.
It still stood when Nebbi left.
It still stood when Alex left.
It still was there 18 years later when it was besieged yet again.
It still stood when the Crusaders arrived.

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Message 128 of 178 (345740)
09-01-2006 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by purpledawn
09-01-2006 1:28 PM


Re: Island was the Main City of Tyre
I also don't see that these oracles from Ezekiel spoke of anything but extinction of the Island City. Nothing to be rebuilt there.
Yeah, the Israelis ain't all that bright I know but they sure wasting a bunch of time, munitions and folk bombing and blockading something that has been gone so long.

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