"The Exodus Revealed" Video II

Come on - this is clearly a marketing pitch!BUY THE VIDEO ! BUY THE VIDEO!Here's a challenge for our friends - makes an arguement without trying to flog some tat.Hi Ned. Where in the world can go to see how the first living cell came to be, how DNA came to be, how the sexes evolved in all living creatures and while we're showing and telling, how I can view the evidence of a closed system universe?And that had what to do with evidence you claim exists right now?This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-06-2004 09:07 PM

Yaro.I was lucky enough to find this map of the route that proves things once and for all. I don't see how anyone can possibly ignore evidence like this.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

ah! but do you have a video?

No, but I can print up about 150 copies. If you thumb them you'll be able to see the actual trek in progress.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Have you viewed the video? We have it, Ned. You people don't have it for much of your alleged imperical stuff.

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What are the potential falsifications of the conclusions of the researchers?What are all of the alternative explanations for how the evidence appears?What other contradictory evidence that they found do they discuss, and do they discuss the contradictory evidence found by others?If they are doing real science, not propaganda, they will prominently discuss the above, because scientists always do this in their papers.

I asked the following questions a number of times, they have never attempted to answer them in this straight-forward format once..EVIDENCE ITEM 1: What is it?

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1)WHICH LAB CONDUCTED INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION?

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2)WHEN WAS THIS CONDUCTED?

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3)WHAT TESTS WERE PERFORMED?

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4)WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF 3?

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5) WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION AROUND THE VERIFICATION PROCESS? AVAILABLE?

Jim, do you sometimes get the feeling we are visiting the primary school department with this evidence? Upon my arrival on EvC, way back when, I was admonished by admin to refrain from posting in the science threads because I was resorting to common sense and logic rather than from the secularistic scientific approach of doing the math, trusting and accepting dating methods, etc. If I had resorted to some of the stuff these people are lowering themselves to in this debate, I'd have been soundly admonished. But alas, these people get by scott free with narry a peep. It's stuff like this, like Yaro's photos of the ship valve wheels and like Jar's rock photos form here and there that drove the old thread to 58 pages. All these silly things needed to be addressed by us. Then professional people like Eta, who should know better would pop in now and then with nothing to contribute but sarcastic insultive negative remarks aimed at posters who were doing all the work.Then too, it kind of like loosers buying time by philibustering as they do in Congress.This is not to say that all counterpart posts are not in good faith and taste. Some posters are more reasonable and sensible in debate.I've said the above to say this: Hopefully some of our counterparts will begin to post less of this incessant yada about no evidence and stick to refutation of the specific evidences presented. In other words, let's all please cut to the chase. for the ultimate emergence of truth. Hopefully, that's what we all want.

You've been told repeatedly that restrictions are in place as to how much testing is permisable and what evidence we have, being the chariot parts as researched from both East and West shores along with the corroborating other evidences. Why don't you stick to refuting all this stuff we have rather than repeated demands for more? Secular cience doesn't have all the links and data on all their alleged claims. Why don't you allow us the same consideration?

And what does that have to do with the Exodus? That sounds like something that can be discussed in a series of other topics. So you have a video. So?Where does one go exactly to perform the on site inspection?What exactly is in the museum you mentioned?I think I asked those questions awhile ago. I missed the answers.

Every so often it is a good idea to summarize. I've lost track of what restrictions there are and why they are there.I've also lost track of exactly what evidence there is.Let me go on memory:
There is a mountain we can't visit that has a black top (maybe) and there hasn't been anything done to determine the nature of the black.There are coral formations that don't look much like anything (at least the pictures I've seen).There is a picture of a wheel that can't be moved and hasn't been examined.There is a wheel that is gone.What else was there?

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You've been told repeatedly that restrictions are in place as to how much testing is permisable and what evidence we have, being the chariot parts as researched from both East and West shores along with the corroborating other evidences. Why don't you stick to refuting all this stuff we have rather than repeated demands for more? Secular cience doesn't have all the links and data on all their alleged claims. Why don't you allow us the same consideration?

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What are the potential falsifications of the conclusions of the researchers?What are all of the alternative explanations for how the evidence appears?What other contradictory evidence that they found do they discuss, and do they discuss the contradictory evidence found by others?If they are doing real science, not propaganda, they will prominently discuss the above, because scientists always do this in their papers.

We are claiming there are none being used by the researchers we are referencing. If you think there are, it's up to you to produce. That's what you demand of us. Turn about's fair play. If you think there are better alternatives, show us something better. That burden lies on you, again, just the same as you demand of us. Please refrain from cluttering the thread with unspecified questions and begin producing productive input posts. ......And if you will approach this thread objectively and in good faith, you will not only acknowledge the evidence that has been presented but will learn all you can about the facts of the matter as those who've produced the evidence have.

Buz.Just for you.Assertation: there are glyphs of calves.Refutation: the glyphs shown are typical of glyphs from throughout North Africa dating to about 1000 years before the alleged Exodus and so do not offer any evidence of connection to the Exodus.Assertion: there are indications of chariot wheels.Refutation: all that is shown is coral formations. No wheels have been presented for independant verification. Even if shown to be chariot wheels and from the 18th dynasty, there is nothing to connect them with the Exodus.Assertion: Gulf of Aqaba land bridge.Refutation: no outside sources show that it exists. The information in video is incomplete and poorly done. The grade is simply done by extending grades near the shore as though they continue all the way across. Even if it is true there is no connection to the Exodus.Shall we go on?

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Ned, there's a whole lot more than the few items you've mentioned. Rather than having us go to all the work of repeating them why don't you go back and do some reading in the existing 43 pages of the original thread and then get back to us in the morning. OK bud?This message has been edited by buzsaw, 08-06-2004 10:46 PM

No, not ok. I know I've repeated myself many tens of times in this forum. I expect the same assistance from others now and then.Every so often it is necessary to repeat ones self.I have been reading along, of course. It is just that there doesn't seem to have been anything memorable presented.(don't rush, I won't be around much for the next 36 hours or so )This message has been edited by NosyNed, 08-06-2004 10:36 PM