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Author Topic:   Citing Middle Eastern Prophecy Being Fulfilled
graft2vine
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Message 13 of 131 (460055)
03-12-2008 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Rahvin
03-12-2008 11:04 AM


Prophecy doesn't have to be fulfilled
If any given prophesy in the Bible is rock-solid proven to be a false prophesy, it proves that the Bible is not infallible.
Not all prophecy has to be fulfilled. Prophecy can be an event that will happen at a future time based just on current conditions. It can be given as a warning to cause change. We tell our children don't touch the hot stove or you will get burned. If they don't touch it because they listened to us, does that make it untrue?
Prophecy is certainly more complex than touching a hot stove... I'm just trying to show the purpose of it. If someone is going to get annihilated anyway, why bother telling them?
These prophecies are called lamentations. A lamentation is something for them to lament, or grief, maybe reconsider their actions.

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graft2vine
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Message 15 of 131 (460066)
03-12-2008 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rahvin
03-12-2008 1:14 PM


Re: Prophecy doesn't have to be fulfilled
And yet that's not the way Buz is interpreting this prophesy. Biblical literalism insists that the Bible is literally true, every word. That means that when a passage says "x is going to happen," it means "x is going to happen," not "x will happen unless you change your ways."
I'm not defending Buz or Biblical literalism. What I quoted from you is about the Bible being "infallible". Lets not confuse literal with infallible. The Bible can be accurate and inerrant without being completely literal, but in parts metaphor, allegory. It is true in its intent. God could very well have done what He intended, but He is a merciful God. He is not going to continue to yell "Die sucker!" while someone is lamenting.
I imagine the author of the passage was simply expressing his own personal anger by saying "my god is going to kick your ass for this!"
But that does not match up with the demeaner of a lamentation.
For that to be the case, the literalist position has to be that any unfulfilled prophesies in the Bible will still be fulfilled at some point in the future.
I do believe that all prophecy is fulfilled in Christ, who died for our sins. He died so Tyre, Babylon, Egypt, etc. doesn't have to.

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graft2vine
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Message 20 of 131 (460088)
03-12-2008 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Rahvin
03-12-2008 2:46 PM


Re: Prophecy doesn't have to be fulfilled
Then all of your comments constitute a red herring, as I was specifically addressing Buz's requirements for prophesy to be literally true, and have not been talking about possible metaphorical interpretations at all. I thought that was made perfectly clear.
I apologize.

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