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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
How many sons does God have?
Genesis 6 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who fathered these sons of God? Scripture indicates that Jesus was the only son of God. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
You would think that they would have been called sons of Angels instead of sons of God.
If God takes us all as sons then how can He justify sending us to eternal damnation in Hell. Any parent would give their children death instead of eternal suffering. Is God meaner than the average parent? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
"Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live!" -Hebrews 12:4-9"
Yes, we respect those who correct our actions and send us on our way to show how we have learned. This is a far cry from eternal damnation. Most penalties have a relationship to the crime. Some kind of scale if you will. Man at the max can only sin for 120 years. The penalty that God exacts is for 1200000000 etc. years.This is not love or justice. It, by any measure is injustice. If God cannot provide better for His children, then He is not a fair God. I personally do not believe in Hell for this reason. Is God fair? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Scripture only shows God involving Himself with one woman, Mary.
Jesus has been named the only begotten son. God fathering a human/God hybrid is to me a ridiculous notion. God would not lower Himself to an act of bestiality.Would it make sence to you that God/Jesus would father God/Jesus. Is that the same as God?Jesus mating with His own mother? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
If at birth we are all sons of God, this would mean that at birth we are Perfect. If so then if we follow our Perfect natures then we cannot do or be evil. When do we loose our perfection if we follow our Perfect natures as given to us by God. If all ar sons of God how can some do evil. Some think most of us do evil.
A poor record for God seems like. God's tally for creating Perfect souls must sound like, good one, good one, oops, oops, good one, oops. I do not believe that God ever goes oops. I think that a Perfect God cannot make imperfect souls. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
If God declares Himself our father, then who has the power to reject it. If I or you have power and say that we will assume the role as father for someone, they can reject any of our efforts but not once dead. We are measuring the power of God, not the puny power of man to reject.
If you or I take that responsibility then after death the physical body is ours. With God it is the same. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
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I can't blame you for rejecting the God of ICANT.He does not understand God at all. Man has 120 years. Eternity has 1200000000000000000 years.ICANT believes it is justice to sen someone to Hell. A true God never screws up a soul enough to need to do this. The true God never screws up on the creation of a soul. They are all created Perfect. To suggest that God is so weak that He cannot make souls Perfect is blasphemy. To suggest that souls are stupid enough to reject God is stupid. We are all destined for Heaven. God would not warehouse His failures in a hell for all to see. God cannot by His very nature fail. RegardsDL OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein. Take comments concerning this warning to the Moderation Thread. AdminPD Edited by AdminPD, : Warning
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
I think that from God's point of view, once He creates a soul it is His forever. It would not at any time loose it's Perfection regardless of it's chosen path. Regardless of how black it gets, God can always cleanse it. Perfection is resilient enough to take anything man can give it. At birth , God would recognize the worth of any new soul and have in place the environment that will bring it to full growth. Much is said of free will but it seems that it is not possible for us to choose to go to Hell. In all else we have choice and free will. Being reborn is well and good but is not necessary to be saved. Jesus's death to confirm the forgiveness of sin saved the whole of humanity and affirmed God's sense of responsibility for His creations. It also shows the Perfection of His systems.
To be otherwise and to still have Hell would be unfair. Like it or not we are all children of God and under His protection and love. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Where some of you are quoting scripture that place limitations on the soul getting to Heaven, even Jesus with His you need to come by me, would be wrong, regardless of the text. It presumes that there is a Hell to send souls to. There is only one place to go after death. Heaven. A hell would be a blemish on God's ability to create Perfection. This would not be allowed. Further a Hell would diminish the sacrifice of Jesus. He did die to forgive all sin after all.
Having said this then evil and sin take on a new character. One of a necessary nature to us as a learning tool. Even Genesis indicates this. If God were unhappy with the way the world is going, He would end it as a useless experiment that produces more for a Hell than for Heaven. This should all reinforce the words of the Bible that we are all brothers and should treat each other as such. I personally fail in this by being grouchy and suffering fools badly. I try. RegardsDL |
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
These sons of God seem to differ from normal humans in the sense that they procreate and produce giants. This has been explained as normal people creating mental giants and not physical ones but I am not sure.
Perhaps we will dither it out. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Yes, Hell is Biblical but so is Jesus dying to forgive all sin.
What does the death of Jesus mean to you in terms of redeeming man. Was His death wasted on only a few sins being forgiven? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Both general and individual.
Jesus does not do half measures. I know that if you read the Bible literally, it shows a fumbling bumbling God but the reality is far from the literal view. God is better than that and so is His prophet Jesus. There is no good reason for God to ever let anything blemish His original Perfect universe. No evil. No failure on the part of God.No Hell to store His failled attempts at creating Perfect souls. We are Perfect believe it or not.But if there is a God, which makes more sense perfection or imperfection of the systems we see about us? RegardsDL
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