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Author Topic:   What does Logos mean?
robinrohan
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Message 6 of 74 (305681)
04-21-2006 12:36 PM


logos
I would like to think that "logos" means Reason.
In the beginning was Reason, and Reason was with God, and Reason was God.

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robinrohan
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Message 8 of 74 (305694)
04-21-2006 2:14 PM
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04-21-2006 1:51 PM


Re: logos
And the Reason became flesh and tabernacled among us (and we beheld His glory, glory as the only Begotten from the Father), full of grace and reality.
How's that communicate?
I guess it doesn't work. Too bad.
This message has been edited by robinrohan, 04-21-2006 01:15 PM

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robinrohan
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Message 54 of 74 (306341)
04-24-2006 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jaywill
04-21-2006 2:32 PM


Re: logos
I didn't think it was too bad. Why didn't you think it works well?
I checked my Weymouth translation of the New Testament and in a note he did indeed include Reason or Purpose as legitimte words philosophically equivalantly conveying Logos according to Greek and Jewish (Philo's) philosophy.
If Logos is supposed to refer to the 2nd person of the Trinity, I don't think "reason" as a definition would fit. He didn't bring Reason down. Man already had reason.

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robinrohan
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Message 57 of 74 (306489)
04-25-2006 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by DeclinetoState
04-25-2006 1:41 AM


Re: logos
Try this: If Logos is supposed to refer to the 2nd person of the Trinity, I don't think "word" as a definition would fit. He didn't bring word down. Man already had word.
True, I suppose. I'm not sure what "word" means. Language?
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robinrohan
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Message 62 of 74 (307253)
04-28-2006 5:33 AM
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04-27-2006 9:17 AM


Re: logos
That is true. But I think John's purpose is to show that what Christ is is what is needed by man because whatever man has has been damaged. Notice the phrase "And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it." (1:5) Here the darkness has a definite negative sense to it. Something is even opposing the light from shining.
I suppose you are referring to the damage caused by the Fall? Not only man's moral sense but his reasoning abilities have been damaged. Or perhaps there's such a thing as "moral reasoning"?

God does not "exist."---Paul Tillich, Christian theologian

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