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Author Topic:   1 piece of evidence to disprove evolution..
mark24
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Message 14 of 85 (50634)
08-15-2003 5:10 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Zealot
08-14-2003 8:28 PM


Re: HI
Zealot,
I've pretty much read these theories, however recall reading that there is a distinct difference between insulating and flight feathers, so the two couldn't really be compared.
Why couldn't a wing evolve without flight feathers, just insulating feathers? Further evolution could then co-opt the feathers for flight. A wing doesn't need flight feathers. Another possibility is that stiff feathers that were more "co-optable" evolved to attract a mate, large colouful surfaces? Possibly a combination of both.
As MrHambre points out, this thread is about evidence that would falsify evolution. Not having data that shows a sep by step scale to flight feather evolution is hardly a contender, when all the evidence actually does point to feathers having evolved from scales (feather development is controlled by the same loci as scales in reptiles, I remember reading somewhere), & that birds did evolve from reptiles.
The wing would prove pretty much useless unless it aided as a means of flight or temportal flight.
There is a grouse like game bird (I forget which species, it was mentioned in the London Natural History Museum, London's display of bird evolution) who's chicks use their wings as a means of speed increase, & as an aid to overcoming small obstacles (before they can fly, obviously).
Mark
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"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."
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mark24
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Message 52 of 85 (50927)
08-18-2003 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by crashfrog
08-18-2003 7:31 PM


crashfrog,
But then we have to ask ourselves how fast a Triceratops (etc) could run? I suspect slower than a T.Rex. The late Cretaceous arms race wasn't an escalation of speed, we can be relatively confident of that at least.
Mark
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"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

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