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Author Topic:   Biblical Creationism Requires Evolution
Taz
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Message 45 of 121 (453768)
02-04-2008 1:38 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Crooked to what standard
02-04-2008 12:01 AM


Ichthus writes:
Have you even heard of the hydro plate theory?
We've all heard this "hydroplate theory" thrown around for years. 2 questions for you.
Can you present a shred of credible evidence for this so-called theory? How come when it comes to real geology like tectonic plate theory that actually has mountains of evidence you people call it "just a theory" but when it comes to something that has absolutely no evidence for and mountains of contradictory evidence you don't call it "just a theory" but instead worship it?
Has this so-called fountain of the deep been discovered yet?

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Taz
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Message 62 of 121 (453981)
02-05-2008 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by tesla
02-04-2008 7:19 PM


Re: Devolution?
tesla writes:
EXACTLY.
but does he?
Honestly, tesla, do you even understand the significance of 2 centromeres and 4 telomeres in the human chromosome number 2? Or is your pride too big to even consider that it might be relevant to this issue?
Since T4C pointed this out to you, I'll let him explain the significance of this fact.
you answere me then, is it not just as logical for a chromosome to be deleted via evolution, as it could have been added?
Jesus Christ, tesla. A chromosome didn't get deleted or added during the course of human evolution. Again, the whole crux of the matter lies in the fact that the human chromosome number 2 has 2 centromeres and 4 telomeres.
honestly not much of this makes a whole lot of sense to me, but logically, evolution can move up or down by habits.
Evolution isn't about moving "up" or "down" as you imply it. Again, I'll leave this to T4C, as he started this.
By the way, that quote you have there (whereever it came from... please provide link) has almost nothing to do with the main point T4C was trying to make.
you answere me then, is it not just as logical for a chromosome to be deleted via evolution, as it could have been added?
The word "logic" and its variations are getting thrown around a lot, as if they make you sound smarter or something.

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Taz
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Message 63 of 121 (453983)
02-05-2008 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by CTD
02-04-2008 8:48 PM


Re: Enough Already
CTD writes:
If mutation was the cause of bacteria gaining resistance, what are the odds of that mutation cropping up? One in tens of billions, at least. But those experiments are readily repeatable. That's because recombination is the cause - not mutation, no way no how.
*Blink* You did not just say that did you?
Do you have any idea how many billions upon billions of individual bacteria that clump together in a colony just to be visible to our naked eye? Hint: that white circle that increases in circumference in your petri dish ain't just 1 bacterium getting bigger and bigger. It's literally a mass of billions upon billions of individuals that came about from a single mother bacterium.

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Taz
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Message 64 of 121 (453984)
02-05-2008 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by RAZD
02-04-2008 10:05 PM


Re: creolution?
RAZD writes:
"superevolution" is what creationists (have to) use to populate the world with the current diversity from a small population of species on some wooden ship ... and no, it is not the same as real evolution. It would have to occur at such a rate as to be visible, on the order of days per new species.
Even IFF superevolution is true, creationists would also have to explain how the marsupials got to Australia or how the polar bears got to the poles. I'm guessing they want us to believe that kankaroos swam across thousands of miles of open ocean to get to Australia... and somehow none of them survived on mainland Eurasia.

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