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Author Topic:   Willowtree's Scientific Evidence against Evolution
Rand Al'Thor
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Message 121 of 299 (76346)
01-03-2004 3:17 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by Cold Foreign Object
01-02-2004 11:45 PM


Willowtree, once again you seem to imply that every scientist that accepts evolution is an Atheist or Agonistic. This is false. Also you imply that all scientists that accept evolution are working together to try to prove evolution to everyone else.
Then you claim that evolution and theism can never reach a middle ground. With this statement you insult about half the people in the US. The very fact that these people exist proves your argument wrong.
...that evolution intentionally uses logidemic language to impress ordinary persons for the purpose of gaining trust and credibilty.
First of all the language used on this forum is almost always understandable to people that haven't had any formal education in the sciences. Also I’m sure that the people on this forum would be happy to explain something in layman terms if you ask them. You may not understand the language used by a physicist but it doesn't mean they are trying to deceive you.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 122 of 299 (76347)
01-03-2004 3:17 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by Cold Foreign Object
01-02-2004 11:45 PM


Double post
[This message has been edited by Rand Al'Thor, 01-03-2004]

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 149 of 299 (77270)
01-09-2004 2:23 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Cold Foreign Object
01-08-2004 8:11 PM


God removes your "God Sense" - this explains the atheists of neo-Darwinism as a whole.
It has already been shown that evolution and atheism do not go hand in hand, accept it. Please find a new argumnet.

"If the gods listened to the prayers of men, all humankind would quickly perish since they constantly pray for many evils to befall one another."
-- Epicurus

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 163 of 299 (77905)
01-12-2004 2:26 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by Light
01-12-2004 12:56 AM


Re: Very brief response
Be careful Light, if you put down Willowtree's beloved Dr. Gene Scott Willowtree is likely to preach to you for hours about Dr. Scott's profound achievements.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 185 of 299 (79694)
01-20-2004 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by wj
01-20-2004 10:13 PM


I personaly would like to see more scientific evidence against evolution given that that was the purpose of this thread.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 187 of 299 (80396)
01-23-2004 8:23 PM
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01-21-2004 6:42 PM


*fart*

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 204 of 299 (82071)
02-02-2004 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by NosyNed
02-01-2004 7:50 PM


I agree with Ned, this thread was made to address scientific evidence against evolution. Let's keep bible discussions and the existence of god to the other threads.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 279 of 299 (87662)
02-20-2004 3:47 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by Cold Foreign Object
02-19-2004 11:56 PM


Evolutionists are the ones arbitrarily excluding the Creator without evidence. Romans says the God neutral clauses contained in the claims of methodological naturalism and rational enquiry are really, in fact, God exclusionary.
And it is the Christians that are arbitrarily excluding the almighty pink unicorns without evidence!!!!
Ok, first of all the existence of theistic evolutionist voids your point. After all, they still believe in god so they should be able to see his "fingerprints" yet somehow they don't. Secondly this thread was made so we could see SCIENTIFIC evidence that falsifies evolution. I am sorry but it doesn't matter what the Romans say. Until you can provide evidence that god exists or evidence that there is a massive Atheistic cover-up going on you arguments are baseless.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 284 of 299 (87925)
02-21-2004 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by Cold Foreign Object
02-21-2004 3:13 PM


Michael Behe evidenced that the eye could not of evolved because there is no evolutionary process by which the complexity of its design could have gradually came into existence. The eye, like blood clotting systems, are irreducibly complex.
Umm, so you just missed the 5 or so threads that have already discussed eye evolution?
Evolution deduces no Creator based upon an interpretation of the empirical evidence.
Wrong, evolution goes against Genesis not god. Just because Genesis is excluded by evolution doesn't mean that there is no god. There is no evidence for god and there is no evidence against.
Once again, I ask if the TOE implies no god then why are there theistic evolutionists and if only belevers in god can see god's fingerprints then why don't theistic evolutionist see them as well?
I don't think I am right - I know I am right.
I'm just curious, how do you know you're right? I mean surely you admit that there is a possibility that there is no god.
Reply 279 completely evades the substance of my post. This person is barely participating, but not enough to differentiate from the previous post.
Well, I personally try to avoid getting into the really scientific arguments I let the experts do that. And also the eye and fossil topics have been covered in other threads.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 289 of 299 (88502)
02-25-2004 4:00 AM
Reply to: Message 288 by Garf
02-22-2004 6:04 PM


*Bump*
Still curious about how Theistic Evolutionists effect Willowtrees arguments.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 292 of 299 (88696)
02-25-2004 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by Cold Foreign Object
02-25-2004 3:16 PM


Well, I would a define a TE as someone who accepts evolution to be true and still believes in a god, Christian or otherwise. Also they believe that god guided Evolution or set Evolution in motion. There might be a more descriptive definition but I think this will suffice for this debate.
[This message has been edited by Rand Al'Thor, 02-25-2004]

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 297 of 299 (90866)
03-06-2004 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by Cold Foreign Object
03-06-2004 6:52 PM


I'm cold and usually sweat. People like me on hot days. I come in many flavors. What am I?
ICECREAM!

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