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Message 153 of 300 (342551)
08-22-2006 10:37 PM


Listen up simpletons
On a board with supposed intellectuals I find it lacking. I wish to talk a spell. Some of the older folk may not enjoy what I will say because your minds have begun to degrade into a linear pattern.
Noone here raises any real questions or answers. A few simpletons trying to substantiate their foolish beliefs.
Vietnam veterans hmm.. well to illustrate an initial point Bob Dylan's young genius will work well:
quote:
"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth."
Obviously there will be alot of you (probably the vast majority) that can't comprehend the words.
Wine is the blood of the one that is sacrificed in society justified through whatever cause. But the preservation of human life is only second to transcendance so these superficial causes like currency (wealth of a "country") or "freedom" (not a cause that is usually fought for)are inherently meaningless. Neglecting the truth preserving statement "nothing is of meaning" freedom is meaningless because in a government (especially through capitalism) , in a country there is no freedom if you submit to its standards, its laws. Moral laws must be decided by you, not the government. Laws must be obeyed to protect human life not because of a force telling you to. I am a libertarian: freedom is man. The "digging of the earth" is the burial of the person and "none of them, none of you know what anything is worth. I have coined you people "systemites" and there you will stay I suppose, unless you exercise good will.
Why have I come back? I have decided you all are worth my time because I value human life (lucky you).
Someone should start a thread on identity because I guess human drama and individualism is inescapable.
Back to my truth preserving point:
Understand,
As long as each of us continue to submit ourselves to the society and its wars and its murder we are not free, and words cannot console the tragic casualties of war.
Do not any of you understand? As we sit in the lap of luxury we are born into only more will die.
What gives you the right to be rich, to be American?
What gives them the right to Die, to be an Iraqi?
It is neither moral to talk to a vet or to not talk to a vet it is moral to first transcend existence to be above this existence
then it is do whatever one can to preserve human life.
These objectives go hand in hand. One can not be complete without the other. One must transcend and one must do good for others.
And doing good for others matters it is not meaningless, for we are not me, you, American, Iraqi, Muslim, Christian WE ARE BUT ONE.
We are all connected, your plight is my plight, Christ said you hurt hi when you hurt another. This is true. Do good to everyone for when you harm another you harm yourself. We are all here, we all exist, we each share the same experience, WE ARE ONE.
Edited by -messenjah of one, : No reason given.

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Message 158 of 300 (342566)
08-22-2006 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by robinrohan
08-22-2006 11:08 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
That is what makes you a nihilist, as you know.
Does that mean you would do for yourself in your own intentions?
And if this is true then is this no less than what the chimpanzee or the lion does?

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Message 159 of 300 (342569)
08-22-2006 11:16 PM
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08-22-2006 11:12 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
quote:
Does that mean you would do for yourself in your own intentions?
Aha, you must for you have no ties.

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Message 162 of 300 (342573)
08-22-2006 11:21 PM
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08-22-2006 11:17 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
Edited by -messenjah of one, : demeaning

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Message 163 of 300 (342574)
08-22-2006 11:25 PM
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08-22-2006 11:19 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
You did not realize what I was asking.
Do you do for your own intentions?
Do not the chimpanzee and the lion do for their own intentions?

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Message 165 of 300 (342578)
08-22-2006 11:31 PM
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08-22-2006 11:28 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
When you act, do you usually act for the benefit of yourself or do you account other humans around you into your actions.
Do you help others if you can?
To sum up:
Are you altruistic?
Edited by -messenjah of one, : typo

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Message 167 of 300 (342583)
08-22-2006 11:42 PM
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08-22-2006 11:36 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
I am simply saying that when when does for themselves they are bringing themselves down to an animalistic level.

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Message 168 of 300 (342584)
08-22-2006 11:43 PM
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08-22-2006 11:36 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
I am simply saying that when when does for themselves they are bringing themselves down to an animalistic, primitive level.

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Message 171 of 300 (342590)
08-22-2006 11:58 PM
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08-22-2006 11:55 PM


Re: Listen up simpletons
It is possible to rise above this level.

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Message 174 of 300 (342595)
08-23-2006 12:05 AM
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08-23-2006 12:03 AM


Re: Listen up simpletons
Jesus's words were not for everyone?

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Message 176 of 300 (342598)
08-23-2006 12:07 AM
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08-23-2006 12:02 AM


Re: Listen up simpletons
By actually acting for others, neglecting yourself at times. It's happening.

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Message 179 of 300 (342603)
08-23-2006 12:21 AM
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08-23-2006 12:10 AM


Edited by -messenjah of one, : demeaning

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Message 180 of 300 (342606)
08-23-2006 12:25 AM
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08-23-2006 12:08 AM


Re: Listen up simpletons
There is no prerequisite for understanding other than an open mind.
This is no elite social club.
There is no such thing as status. Everyone can have a place in the kingdom of God..... Your words are divisive not uniting.

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Message 184 of 300 (342611)
08-23-2006 12:37 AM
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08-23-2006 12:10 AM


Your initial post didn't deserve my time.
I honestly think you should be suspended for it until you can think things through.
Another notch for Hobbes.

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Message 186 of 300 (342613)
08-23-2006 12:41 AM
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08-23-2006 12:40 AM


I'm not going to entertain your trivial pursuits any longer.

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