On feeling sorry for people

I don't see why robinrohan is getting so much flack. He obviously felt empathy and compassion for this group of men, just because he didn’t go talk to them, give them money, ect., ect. doesn't mean that he did anything wrong.There is so many things around this world that would bring up the feelings Robinrohan had, all of us have been in that situation and I can tell you that I have taken the route of inaction. We have to pick and choose whom we want to help.I am sure no one here volunteers, donates, keeps company, protests or whatever everything they have feelings of opposition, pity, empathy, compassion for.Attacking Robinrohan for a small bit of inaction is a good way to tear him down and make one look better saying, "I would of done it".Edited by NeuroCycle, : Spelling/grammar

Or they could of been content to be sitting their silently amongts fellow Vets.

You're welcome. People are makeing a big to-do about nothing.

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I don't doubt that YOU think that. However it was only one part of a larger comment.
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I took it as a critical remark. You are softly attacking his action, no positive reinforcement, then giving a "too bad" at the end. Letting, at least me, know that you disagreed with what he did.How did he miss out on an opportunity? It was there, he didn't take it and doesn't feel bad about his choice... what was missed?

I can't speak for Robinrohan, but I really don't like talking to strangers, not that socially adept to just go up and talk to people. Homeless, mentally ill, handicapped no matter. Do I feel bad for them? Yes I do, will chatting with them brighten up their day? Maybe, I don't know.I will give occationally to charities and the like, but if I don't take time to chat with the local homeless guy I sure as hell better not get critized for it.What you did was honorable and very kind-hearted and I really commend you for it, but it isn't what I do. I think of myself as a decent guy and try to do my part to help people - just in a different way.I could easily take a personal situation and say you should do this because I did, but what is the point?

I am jumping in again.Now you feel that you didn't critize him. Him and I do.Question: Do you think what Robinrohan did was ok?In your post to him it was not noted that in anyway did you agree with his actions. The whole content was a - you should of done this/that and you would of been a better person for it - implying (without being a hypocrit) that you would of talked to these men. So I took that as an underhanded "I am better then you" attitude.When you obviously put more stock in one position and find a fault with the one he took how can you not call the criticizing?

Totally agree.Edited by NeuroCycle, : format edit

What I am getting out of it is that you are fine with him makeing his choice because he is Robin, but you wouldn't make the same choice because you are Jar.Let me know if I am on the right track. What you did is present a personal, "better", series of actions. Not just an alternative.I have given my opinions on the opening post. I haven't had any responces to that. I am going with this line of responces.

I don't like starting conversations with strangers. I don't like making small talk. I am personally not missing out on anything. I don't want to talk to that homeless guy, I don't talk to them. I am not missing out on anything. Will I give him a dollar or two, sure, probably make him happier then talking to him. He is different then me. No sugar coating it. He doesn't have money. I do. I give him money to help him.Outside of finacial differences do I think he is equal (wrong word, should of used different again) to me? He is a human being and has all the rights I do and all that, but beyond that honestly I don't know - he could be a crack head dead beat or just his business fell out and was left with no money. I don't know and I am not going to talk to him to find out.... call me calious or cold-hearted but being honest... I don't care. I don't care why is there, but he obviously needs money and I if I give him some I don't care what he does with it.Edited by NeuroCycle, : changes in bold

Usually people start conversations with me and usually pertaining with something to do with work/school/interest I like. Then I start talking.I am outgoing once I know someone.Everyday situation: Elevator at work, going up the floors, I keep to myself I don't want anyone talking to me and fine it annoying when the "weather" topic comes up. "Nice weather out there, huh?" - that is what I consider small talk. Yes I talk to children. Nothing different about them. Not like I haven't talked to a homeless guy before and just chatted it up, I have. I just don't care for it. Could go back and ask you that why wouldn't it? I get the point. I am not going to talk to them. I am not going to offer them a conversation. I don't want to, if we arn't different then him feeling better if I talk to him doesn't override me not wanting to talk to him.I will give him money and I don't know any reason why a homeless man wouldn't want money over nothing.I am not the easiest person to start talking to, not by a long shot, as you have found out

If it was just a pure alternative and not any better then what already took place then the words "missed out" and "too bad" shouldn't have been included.Could of easily just of said:"I would of blah blah blah blah, but that is me, either way. Makes not difference"

If you are trying to equat children with the homeless, not going to work. You asked me why would I assume he would want money. I am asking why assume he doesn't? Plain and simple. I don't like talking to homeless people (one example). It makes me happy to not talk to them. I am not interested in a conversation with them any more or less then the guy in the business suit on the elevator or the child playing street hockey in the park.I have great conversations with the people I know. I take a while to warm up to someone. If I know I am not going to see someone again I don't talk to them, to me it is pointless - for them I don't know.I won't stop someone from talking to me, but I will not strike up a conversation with a stranger, simple as that.I don't talk to the homeless so I offer them money to help. You have your way I have mine.Best course would to ask the homeless person what he wanted really.Edited by NeuroCycle, : spelling

In the context you used them I took the as being used in a negative way.And why use "great" when discribing "opportunity" if wasn't any better?

Again if it isn't any better why even bother with the descriptive? More effecient to leave it out along with your "missed out" and "too bad".

Don't pull that out of context. It was meant as in my conversational needs. Ok. But have to admit that is a pretty safe assumtion that a homeless person would want money. I do. Example: Started a new job. I would only talk about things that needed to be talked about until about a week of doing that then I start opening up more. I live in a city of that size as well. Well no there is no way of "knowing" but I "know" I will see co-workers and regulars at the bar I work at. That is the difference. I am very happy with who I am, no need to feel sorry for me. Everyone lives a different life. I happen to be happy with mine.