Quitting smoking?

What if someone let their car running right outside and the end result was the same? Would you argue that they can't do that too?

I switched to e-cigs and its amazing.I still get my nicotine but my lungs don't feel ruined.But you gotta buck up a little and get a good refillable one and not one of those cheap disposable gas station ones.

I'm not. Well, I don't inhale tobacco smoke any more, so I'd say that means I quit smoking. But I never intended to give up nicotine, its too good, like caffeine, or alcohol. And nicotine goes great with alcohol and caffeine. The e-liquid can have a pretty hefty dose of nicotine, up to 36 mg/ml. That's where the "poison" comes from. Other than that, its propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and flavor.The local place that makes my juice uses food grade PG and VG.

There's plenty of things I do that aren't good for me, I'm not worried about that. But there's signs that e-cigs are way less damaging than analog cigs:

• Lack of expectorating in my morning shower
• Don't easily run out of breath under exertion
• Gut busting laughter doesn't end in a coughing fit

Stuff like that. Plus I don't stink, and I don't have to go outside to "smoke". Nicotine is just another drug, and I like it. But like all of them, if you don't know what you're missing, then there's really no good reason to find out.Well, except for maybe an entheogen... everyone should have to try one of those once in their life.

You're hilarious!

There's plenty of people in the vaping community that are bothered by this as well. We'd prefer to find acceptance, and blowing clouds in peoples' faces is not the way to do that.

I don't know, but that seems pretty much it. People are being really irrational about it.I was at the NIN concert here in St. Louis vaping away on the floor, a security guard came up and said "you can't smoke in here". I said, "this isn't smoke". he goes: "I don't care, you can't do that either." And I was all: "dude, there a fog machine 15 feet to my left, its going to fill this place with fog in few minutes, this stuff is practically the same as that". He wasn't having any of it. Anyways, I didn't let him "see" me vaping after that.So, they've also got what they call "drip tanks". Its a metal coil wrapped around a cotton like substance that heats up. Anyways, you can get weed "wax", which is kinda like hash, but processed from buds. And you can use the wax in a drip tank and vape weed instead of nicotine

Then you better also stay away from tomatoes, potatoes, cauliflower, eggplant...

For sure. I'm comparing it to the amount of nicotine in exhaled vapor.

Yup, they're grrreat. They definitely have nicotine in them! I went cheaper than that; got a $20 battery and a $20 tank. I thought the best part was stopping coughing. Some places are already trying to have them treated equivalently as tobacco. Its nothing like tobacco. We should have never called them e-"cigs"...

You can change the coils/wicks in the tanks after they wear out.I've got a bottom feeder tank, I've found them to be better than the ones with the wicks at the top. Its 12 mg/ml, which is, like, ppm not percent.I use 24 mg/ml. If you find yourself constantly using it, then you can up your nicotine level to get your fix sooner and cut down your time sucking on the thing. Good for you. I'm surprised that such a heavy smoker had such a quick turn over. Do you drink? You may find yourself wanting to grab a real cig if you're drinking. Yup. I have absolutely no desire to smoke burnt leaves anymore. Its just disgusting now.

That's per cig. So each ml of your juice is 10 cigs.But I don't think its really 1:1 like that. Not all of the nicotine in a cigarette gets into the body when you smoke it. And I'd bet its similar for vaping, that you're only getting some percentage of the total nicotine in solution. Meh, not so much. I've had 36 mg/ml juice, it just tasted like shit. Given how much you smoked, I wouldn't be worried about the juice. Just don't drink it. Sure, there's the drug addiction side, and then there's the habitual side. Like, you get in the car, put your seatbelt on, start 'er up, and then light up a cig. Regardless of whether or not you "need" a cig at that point, you're driving so that means you're smoking.Since switching to vaping, I've rid myself of a lot of the habitual part. I'll start to notice my nicotine level dropping, that feel for the "need", and then dose myself back up to a good level. If I don't need any nicotine at the moment, then I don't find myself vaping.After a meal though, every time. Mmhmm. Yeah, I haven't ever really intended to quit using nicotine. I just didn't like having to breath smoke to get it (chewing was too gross).I always used to say that someone should invent a small bottle of water with a dose of nicotine that I could take a shot of when I needed some. It'd prolly be too slow of a delivery though, and I'm very happy with vaping. Nicotine is a helluva drug. Almost as good as caffiene... Heh, I'll be that guy. I've already berated some of my friends for having failed to convert to vaping yet. Holier than thou n'everything

So, how's it going? Still good? Has your family noticed or said anything?

This study detected no nicotine in the air after a vape session:

Its under Methods:

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We measured total organic carbon (TOC), tolluene, xylene, carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NO_X), nicotine, acrolein, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) glycerin and propylene glycol levels on the air of the room.

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and Results:

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No tolluene, xylene, CO, NO_X, nicotine, acrolein or PAHs were detected on room air during e-CIG session.

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Here's the full thing:http://clearstream.flavourart.it/...s/2012/09/CSA_ItaEng.pdfAnd here's another one:Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks - PMC

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There was no evidence of potential for exposures of e-cigarette users to contaminants that are associated with risk to health at a level that would warrant attention if it were an involuntary workplace exposures.

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