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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
In the Why so friggin' confident? various spin-off threads have been proposed. There is definite interest in this one. Bertot claimed
Bertot writes: ...that about 100 yeas ago the Academy of sciences put out a list of 50 or 51 scientific discrepncies in the Bible and that not a single one of those discrepencies remains or that any scientist will back those diescrpencies anymore... in Message 333 of that thread. I Googled it out of interest. It seems to be a 'fact' touted by evangelicals and their brethren, but nobody seems to be able to name these fifty one facts, the claim usually goes:
quote: The spirit of the claim is no doubt true: science does not have dogma and changes its views as evidence roles in whereas the Bible doesn't change - only its interpretation by its readers. Is the claim itself actually true? What are these facts? If it is true, does it support the strong claim that the Bible is eternally TRUE whereas as science is only temporally 'true'? If anybody can track them down, that would be great. A poster on this newsgroup claims to have spoken with the French Academy of Sciences and received the {translated} response of:
quote: Is this one of those religious urban legends that keep circulating because the people that pass it on simply believe (with a high degree of confidence) that it is fact based on what turns out to be highly spurious grounds? I'd say this is one for The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Mod, I will prepare the popcorn for this thread. Do you want butter on yours?
I'm betting that the "list" is precisely as you say - a "religious urban legend."
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Mod, I will prepare the popcorn for this thread. Do you want butter on yours? I'm betting that the "list" is precisely as you say - a "religious urban legend." If those suspicions are true, I'm sure it should be trivial enough to track down the chirping crickets - that is what crows eat isn't it? To maintain topic integrity, I have managed to track down an early version of this claim:
quote: Loraine Boettner, first in a series of articles in a magazine in the 30s, followed by a book in the 1940s. The full article with the quote can be found here. There are some fun additional quotes in there like
quote: Do you think he even noticed how he managed to contradict himself there?
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4022 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Hi, Mod, I wonder what the fascination is that believers have with the past. If they are not dredging up this item (1861 forpete`ssake), they are waffling on about Charles Lyell said this, or Darwin might have said that. Are modern scientific discoveries so far beyond their ken, they have to scour waste-baskets?
How about tackling today`s news item:
SIR David Attenborough receives hate mail over his belief in evolution, the British broadcaster and naturalist has revealed. Sir David is preparing for more letters telling him to "burn in hell" when his latest television show, a documentary on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, is aired in the UK on Monday. "They tell me to burn in hell and good riddance," Sir David told Radio Times magazine. The popular 82-year-old said people often asked him why he did not "give credit" in his programs to God for creating the natural world. "They always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds," Sir David said. "I always reply by saying that I think of a little child in East Africa with a worm burrowing through his eyeball. "The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs. I find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator."
More on http://www.news.com.au/...y/0,23739,24973873-5003402,00.html BTW, anybody got a name for that little critter?
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Reminds me of an incident here in The Netherlands, where the EO (evangalical broadcasting), who were airing his shows, had edited them to exclude any reference to millions of years ago and so forth. See here, here and here.
That worm's probably a Thelazia I hunt for the truth
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
There is a nematode worm called Loa loa filariasis which is colloquially known as the 'African eye worm', adult worms often migrate to the eye but they don't need to pass to the eye as part of their life cycle, so I'm, not sure this is what Sir David was thinking of.
TTFN, WK
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Peg Member (Idle past 4957 days) Posts: 2703 From: melbourne, australia Joined: |
i've searched for info on the 'list' and couldnt find anything
i've never heard of it
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olivortex Member (Idle past 4806 days) Posts: 70 From: versailles, france Joined: |
We the french always have to pay for the others! whyyyy????
olivortex | Listen and Stream Free Music, Albums, New Releases, Photos, Videos "What would you do if you were stuck in one place and every day was exactly the same, and nothing that you did mattered? Ralph: That about sums it up for me." Groundhog Day
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4022 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
We the french always have to pay for the others! whyyyy???? Because you are always such good sports. :-) And welcome to EVC.
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
Hahaha! Aussome!
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olivortex Member (Idle past 4806 days) Posts: 70 From: versailles, france Joined: |
thank you
i think i'll be on this forum more than once!
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Brian Member (Idle past 4987 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
As it looks as if this list is yet another piece of creationist propaganda, couldn't we come up with The EvC List of 51 Scientific Facts that disprove the Bible?
1. The Sun does not orbit the Earth.2. Pi does not equal 3. 3. There ain't no corners of the Earth. 4. The Earth is not 6-10,000 years old 5. There was never a global Flood event 6. Species arise gradually through evolution, not suddenly via special Creation Edited by Brian, : updated list Edited by Brian, : update list
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Brian writes:
Good idea! As it looks as if this list is yet another piece of creationist propaganda, couldn't we come up with The EvC List of 51 Scientific Facts that disprove the Bible? 2. Pi does not equal 3. I hunt for the truth
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
(3) There ain't no corners of the Earth.
Edited by Taz, : changed 2 to 3
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