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Author Topic:   51 scientific facts that disprove the Bible
Granny Magda
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Message 19 of 167 (496487)
01-28-2009 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by randman
01-28-2009 12:37 PM


Re: Our own list?
Hi Randman,

quote:
2. Plenty of people disagree on the global flood event but regardless, the Bible does not say the flood was necessarily global. Could be or could be not.

Don't be silly.

Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

All flesh. Everything that is in the earth. If the flood was not global, why would everything die? If they died for reasons other than the flood, why mention the flood here? Why even have a flood?

Gen 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

Again, that is every living substance. Not just some.

Gen 7:19-20 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

Note all the high hills were covered, not just some.

7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

Only Noah and his party lived. This clearly not an isolated event.

It doesn't say "some of the earth" or "the known Earth", it says only "the earth". It also says that every living thing was killed (save Noah and co.). That pretty clearly describes a worldwide flood. Trying to interpret it otherwise is to mangle the intent of the text (see tagline).

PS; 7) The mustard seed is not the smallest seed.

Mutate and Survive


"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Granny Magda
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Message 31 of 167 (496630)
01-29-2009 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Brian
01-29-2009 1:38 PM


Twenty Facts and Counting...
Okay, I’ll see your ten and raise you ten...

11) There was no time when all animals were vegetarian (Gen 1:30). {Edited. Thank you Moose.}
12) Not all animals fear humans (Gen 9:2)
13) The Sun does not and cannot stand still.
14) We think with our brains, not with our hearts or kidneys.
15) The Earth does not sit upon pillars.
16) Hares do not chew the cud. Neither do rabbits and neither do hyraxes. {Edited}
17) Bats are not birds.
18) The Earth is not stable nor immobile (1 Chron 16:30).
19) No-one hatches cockatrice eggs. No-one does anything with cockatrice eggs. There’s no such thing as cockatrice eggs. (Isaiah 59:5, honestly).
20) No matter how much you believe in Jesus, deadly poison is still deadly (Mark 16:17).

Mutate and Survive.

Edited by Granny Magda, : Changed title.

Edited by Granny Magda, : Added ten more and changed title again.

Edited by Granny Magda, : Ninja'd by bluescat48!

Edited by Granny Magda, : Changed whales/hares entries after objections.


"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Granny Magda
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Message 34 of 167 (496637)
01-29-2009 3:15 PM
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01-29-2009 2:59 PM


Forty Facts and Counting...
And still more...

32) Giants. Nuff said.
33) Unicorns. A bit thin on the ground these days. {Edited. Thanks Bluejay.}
34) No matter how high a mountian you climb, you still won't see the whole Earth (Luke 4:5).
35) Eagles do not carry their young on their wings (Deut 32:11).
36) Figs are not a cure for deadly illness (2Kings 20).
37) Frost; not the breath of God (Job 37:10).
38) Ostriches are not poor parents as the Bible implies. (Job 39). {Edited. Thanks Coragyps.}
39) “Dumbness” is not caused by demons or devils.
40) “Is any sick among you?” Well don’t treat them with prayer. It’s rubbish at healing people.

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Edited by Granny Magda, : Factored in Mod's.

Edited by Granny Magda, : No reason given.

Edited by Granny Magda, : Edited some entries after objections.


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Granny Magda
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Message 36 of 167 (496649)
01-29-2009 4:59 PM
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01-29-2009 4:20 PM


Re: Thirty-Nine Facts and Counting...
I stand corrected. It's a shame; imagine a roast chicken where everybody gets a leg.

Your suggestion is a good one though. As a keen mushroom forager, I find the omission of fungi as annoying as you must find the idea of four-legged insects.

Mutate and Survive


"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Granny Magda
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Message 40 of 167 (496671)
01-29-2009 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Coragyps
01-29-2009 9:40 PM


Re: Forty Facts and Counting...
Hi Coragyps,

That's a fair point. On reading up a bit more though, I note that the ostrich does not "warmeth her eggs in the ground", both parents incubate them. I will do some editing tomorrow and get that one up to scratch. For now, it's way past bedtime.

I still think the Bible is a bit hard on the ostrich though. Where do they expect it to nest, up a tree? And why does it do these silly things?

Because God hath deprived her of wisdom, neither hath he imparted to her understanding.

A bit rich then, to blame the poor ostrich for God's shortcomings.

Mutate and Survive


"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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