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allen Guest |
Religions and other anti-gay groups picture gays as wanton sinners lusting to seduce small boys. The truth is heterosexual males are, in general, far more abusive towards young victims than homosexual males are. To learn more about homophobia, read Blumenfeld (1992). About 2300 years ago, Plato wrote a defense of homosexuality, titled Symposium. On certain topics we are slow learners
----------------------------------------------------------- Take the citys of sodom and gahmorah, God distroyed thoes citiesbecause of that very sin.And for you to say heterosexual males are in general far more abusive to wards young victims than homosexual males are, is quite a slap in anyones face just reading your wording of thought that you so unshamefully post for others to read. I do not believe ,(after speaking to several homosexual males recently because of ;your post), that being homosexual is either a learned or born act of sexual preversion knowingly acted out because of self desireable pleasure one feels doing the act, but in that the act is self pleasure in knowingly doing what one is not born or created to do. Therefore, homosexuals are acting out and choosing to perform preverse sexual doings outside the God given purpose of re creating life itself thru the normal choosing God has commanded man and woman to do ..go and multiply thy seed and be fruitful.. not : go and lay with your same sex partner and have anal sex and victimise little boys (or girls) to fulfill your preverse sexual desires.. I have even heard the excuse for being gay is: "I was born with the gene that causes my maleness to become female as i grew up by knowing my way was intended to be gay".. SHOULD have been said like this: I was born, then i became sexually active,and I followed my perverse sexual desires, and spit in the face of God by doing the complete opposite of what man was commanded to do in the garden of eden. I personally must admit that to this day i cannot understand or find a true reason for a man to become a sexual partner with another man/ or a woman doing so in this same matter. Some reasons i have heard were, "I'm gay because: my father was crippled and he made me perform oral sex on him, because my mother left after his accident.. and i loved my father and did this for him , and now i am gay.. or, i have a gene that programed me to be gay, and that gene kicked in after my 12th birthday.END. The things that I can conclude that a homosexual gains after sex are, less than expected/ aids/hurt/acute lust mode/anal discomfort/loose stools/loss days from work/ multiple sex partners/and death from medical incurables. I for one do not stand for such an act of homosexualality./ Tho i have never beaten up a homosexual, I never will slap one in the face.. because Jesus forgives all sin, no matter what the sin is..and for your information, this topic hits home rather close with me , as i have a sister who is twice married to another woman, tho i am not proud, i love her the most out of 5 sisters in my family..God does tell us: The wages of sin is death..lets not slap God in the face again..just get out of the sin you are in.. that is what i tell all homosexuals that i converse with..Remember: YOU CHOOSE WHAT YOU DO, SO YOU CHOOSE YOUR OWN PUNISHMENT.. because all sin has a wage to it... Plese think what you will...post what you will in responce to my posted reply..i welcome all who post harshly or lovingly...I mean no harm to anyone that is homosexual.. just remember this..it is in my own family..and has been for years...tho i did not choose to become homosexual...i see it everyday. Sin can be forgiven, if you ask for forgiveness. It is too easy to get out of homosexuality..just ask Jesus to forgive you, and He will,,and He does it with the largest amout of love.. and I wont hate you for being homosexual..Because there is a forgiving God at hand..we just need to go to him and simply ask for forgivness..I let God take control, not man. For in the end, it is Jesus who will judge. Take no offence to my post, it is just how i feel.
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allen Guest |
Allen darling,
I thought you'd left me. ------------------------------------------------Hi again John! Long time no speak. lol Man you make me laugh...and from your response, I assume you are gay? I dont want to burst your bubble John Darling lol...but please stop trying to be the butter on my bread...i find you tasteless in your snide remarks you so often post in responce to my post....yes i did declair that i would accept all nice and not so nice post..so i accept your post also John... but...knowing you from the past, i find you rather hostile to my being.. tho you cause me to respond to you because, and only because you know how to get my goat..(please dont make a homosexual post about the goat ok John). . . it's a figure of speach... but i do remember how i had to enevitably explain myself to alphelion to you..but i'd rather just comment anymore...so have fun John...i have gotten a litte more tollerant in my old age. lol. especially to you! (Darling). AS FOR THE PROOF ON THE cause of distruction for Sodom/Ghamorah City...the bible just states that The citys sins reached the throne of God, and it names some of the sins that caused it to be burnt up. Some of the sins were named: ie: men lovers of men.. beastiality, whoremongerers..murder and on and on... i know that they were not nice people when Lot said to God. will you spare the city if there were even one righteous person in the City,, and God said there were not as many even as one..Im sure you can read your bible that shows the particulars to satisfy your mindset on the subject.. im not one who can quote scripture precisely.. tho i believe many of you out there can come to my aid, and help my feeble mind with the details so many of you readers neither read for yourselves...just to provoke additional pricking to others your inquisitive questions to downtrodden my lack of precision in a particular subject...nuff said. P>S John Darling... Jesus still loves you, and wants you to give your heart to Him.. how long will you continue to walk on the path to destruction. allen ..and yes John.. just like Jesus loves you...i do too..so..come to Jesus now..for your soul may be required of you as you sleep. Read Romans 10: verses 9-10 , that is how you come to Jesus. Please dont get offended to my post..its just what i feel.
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allen Guest |
quote: proverbs 14:11 is one verse to read.vers 12 following 11 is another. verse 14 is another verse 27 is another these verses coincide to the fall of Sodom /Gomorrrah..thoes cities fell because they did not posess the rightous life ..rightous being: sinless life..to be sinless ..to not act on sin.. not to do the act of sinning against the very God that commanded them to : sin not. As you read bout the cities, they were a focal point in the oil trade. Therefore, they became high and mighty in that they were blessed, and perversed the gifts given to them, that even the officers and high ranking leaders gave into pervers sexual sin..and lying and killing and whatever wicked thing they desired to do in their hearts led them to destruction.. Proverbs 15:26 is another.. Here is the chapter that discribes the fall of sodom and gomorrah... (i just read it)..pay particular attention to the verse 4 and read on. It reads like this: chapter 19 of Genesis verse 4 on: 4. this is the NIV bible. verse 4: Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of sodom both young and old surrounded the house. 5: They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." NOW you must read the beginning of chapter 19...so you can get the whole happening.. dont pervert just that verse,, the two men that came to Lots house were angels who came to warn and remove the only rightous ones from the doomed cities. so i hope you are happy now that God's word proves itself once again. thank you, and Thank God for his precious word.
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allen Guest |
quote: are you bisexual... that is what your post declares..get a grip..imnot flaming anyone.. i just was replying to someone else..should you read the WHOLE thread now?! I would hope so... then you can come back and dam me to death...then i would know you have reason to be so arrogant in your post to a half read thread. SIN IS SIN no matter how you think it... no one can justify any sin at all. No one can declare one sin any less opposing to God, except the sin of not becoming saved. The whole bible is about getting you to come to Jesus..that is what He did for ALL mankind. Dont think i will falter in my faith just because of a post about homosexuals...all sin needs to be confronted.. and if homosexuals can declare GAY DAY and parade on a special GAY DAY of the year, then i can converse the topic freely , as i have NO problem facing any Gay person and talking about homosexualality.... i do not declare to be God.. i just spread the word of God , that He has given US a way out of our sins, that He will forgive all sins, and we dont have to suffer the death due to our sins... whatever a man or woman decides to become is thier decision...not mine..im just posting my thoughts about the subject at hand , and i will not back off to anyone, because the word of God is my strength.. im not here to cut your head off, or slap your face.. or to be condemmed by anyone... im just answering someones reply to my post that i replyed to another post about the post in topic. Nuff Said. DONT ever think i will back off from what the Good Lord has freed me of...but i also have the resposibility to tell others about the escape they can have from all damming sin. Sin is sin! And Jesus forgives all sin...its your choice to accept the forgiving of sin that Jesus died and arose for .Imagine if man had no way out of sin.. then we would be destined to our just reward for our sins.. and according to the Word of God, that is the place called Hell.. a place where God has prepared for satan and his follen angles...in fire and brimstone will they suffer for eternity.. nashing of teeth, no water,no light, just darkness.. for this very reason i have become saved thru the blood of Jesus. He has forgiven me all my sins..past/present/future sins..He has forgotten them, and seperated them as far as the east is to the west..and cast them down to the deepest bottom of the deepest ocean. Now that is sin forgiven. Tell me of a God that can do more. Lying/cursing/hating/killing/homosexuality/bisexual/haters of God/ cheating/gosiping/and lots more are sammples of sin that God has written about in the bible to tell us not to do them.
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allen Guest |
quote: THANKS JOHN I went to your awful site (again), and read your girlfriends post...and i left a short post for you to read.. i hope you coincider what i propose to do. Thanks bro. {)
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allen Guest |
sheesh.. Jesus said that ..the wages of sin is death ...and death of the flesh and the second death.. is of the spirit.. those that have accepted Jesus as their God do not die the second death..
fear no man that can take your flesh, but fear He who can take your flesh, and condem your spirit for eternity.. again Jesus said that...we are not to fear mere men... but to fear God Himself, because it is He who only can condem the spirit. Now do i have to find my self condemed also because of the word of God.. I think not. [This message has been edited by allen, 11-14-2002]
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allen Guest |
quote: .....................so your point is that you cant read between the lines.. you know men on men..equils a homosexual act..it was in their hearts to have sex with other men..in this word, it was the two angels that are men that they wanted to have sex with... common...if it is in your heart to do something, then you have already sinned as if you have committed the act.. in this case.. it is evident..and bluntly frightening. Please dont tell me you cant see what was about to happen.. what if the crowd of men of sodom did get into the house, and what do you think they would have done... throw a welcome party.. i think not. night.
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allen Guest |
quote: WHEN SOMEONE IS NOT A CHILD OF CHRIST, HE CANNOT DISCERN THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT...YOU SHOULD NOT CONFUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR FLESH AND YOUR SPIRIT...SO DONT ATTACK ME PERSONALLY AS YOU HAVE ABOVE..YOU MAY PITTY MY EXISTANCE, BUT GOD HOLDS ME PRECIOUS IN HIS HANDS..I WAS NEVER BULLIED IN SCHOOL..IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT NEVER BOTHERED ME.MY PARENTS LOVED ME VERY MUCH.NO HARM WILL COME TO ANYONE FROM MY HAND...MY HAND IS REACHING OUT TO YOU, TO OFFER YOU A FREE GIFT GIVEN BY MY SPIRITUAL FATHER JESUS..THAT GIFT IS SALVATION FROM YOUR SIN AND THE EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT OF YOUR SIN...JESUS PROVIDEDTHE PATH BACK TO THE FATHER , BACK TO HIMSELF..HE LOVES US ALL SO MUCH THAT HE DOESNT WILL ANY TO SUFFER THE PITS OF HELL..I CHOOSE JESUS. CONFUSION IS OF THE DEVIL..THATS WHAT HE DOES..HE WILL DO ANYTHING IN HIS POWER TO PULL YOU DOWN TO HELL WITH HIM...AND IF ITS TO THRU PERSUASION.. MONEY ,SEX, CONFUSION..LIES. ETC, HE WILL DO IT JUST TO PULL YOU INTO HELL. UMM.. DONT WANNA GO THERE...NOT IF THERE IS A FREE WAY TO BE FORGIVEN THE PUNISHMENT OF MY SINS. I THINK I WILL TAKE THE WAY THAT IS ALREADY PAID FOR ..THE FREE TRIP...NO DOWN PAYMENT...NO CONFUSION.. JUST GOTTA HAVE FAITH..AND BELIEVE, AND ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOUR... AHH HEAVEN..STREETS OF GOLD..NO NIGHT..NO CRYING..NO HATERID...NO GANGS...NO SIN.NO LIES..NO PERVESION. YOUR CHOICE...NOT MINE. YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE. I PRAY YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE TODAY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR YOU TO HAVE A CHOICE. GOD BLESS YOU GREATLY IN YOUR TRAVEL TO FIND THE TRUTH.. P.S. JESUS IS THE TRUTH, THRU HIM AND ONLY HIM IS THERE SALVATION , BY NO OTHER NAME CAN A MAN ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT THRU THE BLOOD OF JESUS. HIS SAVING POWER.
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allen Guest |
John...why do i get the feeling you are a devil worshiper..i get my clue from you placing an X before anity..as in CHRISTianity...are you so afraid of the true power of jesus you cant even spell his name..
you have got a long way to go john.. Please excuse me from these forums, as Jesus has been rejected , and i kick off the dust of your home from my shoes, and leave. alle
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