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Author Topic:   What's Best Reconciliation of Gen 1 and 2 You've Heard?
nwr
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Message 267 of 307 (317528)
06-04-2006 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by 2ice_baked_taters
06-04-2006 4:43 AM


Only the fool focuses on the facts. It is the meaning of things that matters.
That seems like an absurd statement. Facts are meaningful too.

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Message 270 of 307 (317706)
06-04-2006 6:48 PM
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06-04-2006 6:39 PM


..., could you please elaborate on your belief that facts have meaning and perhaps give an example or two.
I don't recall ever coming across a fact that did not have meaning.
I guess I don't know what you are talking about.

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Message 291 of 307 (317845)
06-05-2006 8:17 AM
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06-05-2006 6:20 AM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
Facts have no meaning.
and
2ice_baked_taters writes:
I would say that in light of the general weight of meaning that any religious text was meant to convey, thus far this topic has been devoid of anything meaningful and to me quite pointless and absurd.
I now see that you were talking of metaphoric meaning, and of other kinds of secondary meaning.
I wish you had made that clear in the first place. Facts are inherently meaningful, so your apparent statements to the contrary come across as obviously wrong. However, if you were referring to secondary meaning, then you might have a point.
Let's connect this back to the topic we are supposed to be discussing. The Genesis 1 and 2 stories, even though factually false, can indeed have important secondary meanings.
Note: I use "secondary" with respect to the way language works. What I am calling a secondary meaning could still be what the author(s) intended as their primary meaning.

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