The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)

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randman writes:... it's all about "the most violent, intolerant force on earth", but that doesn't mean jar has ever called Christianity evil...

But the topic here, if you'd care to address it at all, is comparing Christianity with Islam.What acts have Muslims done that Christians have never done?

As much as I hate it, Hitler and his other Nazis were very much True Christians and all that they did, all the killing of Jews, the weak, Poles, Gypses and the metally ill, the did in the name of Christianity.

Hitler was Evil, but as you pointed out in the OP, it was a very normal human evil, even if on a grand scale. It was not a sign of Satan's influence. Just pure meanness.On the other hand, Ron Wyatt, Ken Hovind, Jerry Falwell, Gene Scott, Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson and such are IMHO definite signs of the influence and existence of Satan. The EVIL here is that Satan gets people to ignore GOD's word, to pervert the Bible, to hate others and inflame those very human insticts for doing evil. I do not see anyway you can account for the perversions of people like the above without the direct influence of Satan.

But the Christian Church, particularly the Evangelicals and Fundamentalists today are the oppressors, oppressing those they consider different, for examples the homosexuals that want basic human rights.As a Christian, I have a duty to speak out when my Church, the Christian Faith is being used to harm others. Evil in the name of GOD is still evil and it is still the act of Christians.

Christians killing in the name of God has been the norm for Christianity.

randman writes:Consider, btw, another comment from jar

I'm only interested in discussing the topic: What, if anything, have Muslims done that Christians have not also done?

This is not a topic about Islam, but rather about the barbarity of Christianity.
Try to stay on topic.

The prophet Muhammed went on a Jihad agsint the Jews who disapproved him and killed 600 of them. This continued. Middle east was conquered through blood shed. According the Islamic Law, Sharia, if the muslims build their temple in any city, that city belongs to them. Look what they have done. They have built the mosques in Bethlehem, NAzareth and even Jerusalem and they are now claiming these cities. In the USA, they have built 1400 mosques. It did not stop here. They did this to the Hinduus. The Sharia law cost the lives of nearly 3 million Hindues and muslims. This has extended to Indonesia. REcently, the world is totally blind to the innocent murder of Christians in Sudan. Nearly 300, 000 of them have been murdered.Yes, now you can blame the Christians for the Holy war, Crusades. Of course, those who carried this out did in the name of Christianity and they were not even christians. Hitler is also described as a Christian. If he were a Christian, why would he execute Bon hoefer, a Christian minister who opposed Hitler? Hitler was an atheist and he strongly believed in Evolution ( Aryans were the Superior race). He also hated Christians and Jews.Did you know that while the Muslims and Hindus were killing each other, it was the christians who stood by the Muslims, protected them and helped them with medical aid and food. do you know who is Mother Theresa? Why did she do what she did?Jim Elliott was a missionary who was killed by the Alka Indians. MAny years later, his wife had a burden for these peopel and went and ministered to them.Jesus Christ was illegally charged and convicted when he committed no crime. He died for you and me. He even forgave his enemies.On the other hand,KOran ( Surah 33 and 35) states that all muslims must hate Jews and Christians and even execute them. If a muslim executes anon muslim, he will go to paradise where 76 virgins will be waiting for him. In the worls today, the muslims are carrying out the commands of their prophet by killing Christians. On the other hand, Chrisitans have not killed anyone in the name of religion recently.

randman writes:The question implies a false assumption, namely that if Christians have not refrained from ever committing the same acts of barbarity as Muslims, then somehow they are the same.

The question ignores scope.

The question ignores motive.

If the act is not religiously motivated, then does it belong in the discussion?

The question fails to really detail what is a Christian or Muslim.

If Christians have committed the same acts as Muslims, then they are the same.

Scope is irrelevant. One murder is no less barbaric than mass-murder.

Motive is irrelevant. One motive for murder is as barbaric as the next.

It is not possible to determine the exact motivation for acts committed far in the past. Only the acts themselves are relevant to this discussion.

You can't use the No-True-Christian fallacy or the No-True-Muslim fallacy to weasel out of the discussion. You seem to want to say that anybody who commits barbaric acts is No-True-Christian and anybody who doesn't commit barbaric acts is No-True-Muslim.

randman writes:The religions, however, are different.

Mass murder is more barbaric than a single murder.

So a Christian murders for some non-religious reason, as David did out of lust for Bathsheba, and a Muslim kills in order to gain entrance into heaven, and you don't see the difference?

Are we talking about people or religion here?

Who says? Courts determine motive "beyond a reasonable doubt" all the time.

No, it is Christians that universally condemn barbarism in the name of religion, and Muslims themselves that argue that Muslims that deny barbaric acts are acceptable are not true Muslims.

... further response to the same question is unnecessary.

One could argue that scientists are the most barbaric people on earth based on some act of barbarism by a scientist, and based on your argument, unless all scientists have been innocent of the same atrocities as others, they are just as barbaric, right?

Do you have some valid reason to ignore the tenets of the religions themselves and the motivation of acts of barbarism?