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Author Topic:   What if Satan reformed?
Archer Opteryx
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Message 126 of 234 (351234)
09-22-2006 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by Jaderis
09-22-2006 2:34 AM


Re: Origen of Alexandria
Jaderis:
The 3rd century Christian theologian, Origen, proposed that at the end of time all souls would be saved, including Satan's.
Many thanks for sharing this. Fascinating. I look forward to taking a look at Freeman's book.
Origen would be a 'universalist', then, if I understand that term correctly.
That is to my knowledge the only time the possibility of Satan's redemption has been entertained seriously in Christian history. Anyone know of any others?
In Paradise Lost Milton's Satan famously says that it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven. I don't recall the exact context. Had Milton's God just given him a chance to enter heaven?

Archer
All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 130 of 234 (352530)
09-27-2006 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by Moe
09-24-2006 1:38 PM


Satan goes legit, no surprise. Now what?
Thanks for joining us, Moe. Welcome to EvC!
Moe:
Must have been all part of the plan. So my take on this reformation scenario is that, if that were to occur, there would be no surprises there either.
So what would happen if--just as according to plan--Satan reformed?
Please see the questions in the OP.
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Edited by Archer Opterix, : Added title.

Archer
All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 139 of 234 (361414)
11-04-2006 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Christian7
11-04-2006 12:05 AM


Welcome to EvC, iBibleNano.
1. Satan won't reform.
How do you know the limits on a supernatural being's choices?
2. Jesus didn't die for satan.
How do you know the limits of God's mercy?
3. Angels don't have free will anymore (as far as good and evil goes) because they have already made their choice.
How do you know the limits on a supernatural being's choices?
Bottom line: How do you know?
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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