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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
jaywill
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Message 56 of 144 (448128)
01-12-2008 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by DrJones*
01-10-2008 6:11 PM


Re: Changing my view of creation
Who designed god?
No one. God always was. It may break my heart to admit it but that's the way I see it.
Do you think the "Cosmic Buck" stops anywhere? I do.
I think if there is anything which always was and aways will be, is ever existing and self existing, it is probably more like me than it is like a rock or a weed or even a dolphin or chimpanzee.
If anyone is an all-powerful and eternal Being, I think that Being, is more like a human being than like a chimp, an ape, or a colony of ants, or a tree, or a rock.
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jaywill
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From: VA USA
Joined: 12-05-2005


Message 57 of 144 (448130)
01-12-2008 7:24 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by EighteenDelta
01-11-2008 8:02 PM


Re: Other questions about evolution
I know you think these arguments are clever, but they are simply demonstrating to the rest of us how little you know.
This is a problem I have with arguing the big picture of evolution. Many knowledgeable people get down on details about bacteria or enzyms and score all these little knowledge points.
You come away saying to yourself "Well, she certainly knows more about bacteria than I do." Or you admit that on some minute small level that person has mastered the facts to expose how much they know.
But after a little while you think about the big picture again of macro evolution and it seems no more likely than before.
I find that most strigent defenders of macro evolution only like to drag you down into minute details about minute things proving the superiority of their mastering of knowledge of small issues.
It doesn't make us have more confidence that your big picture is plausible.
Okay, so you dazzle me with how much you know about proteins, and how uneducated I am about proteins. Somehow after the brow beating is over I still find it hard to believe that random minute modifications brought about the human brain from a little one celled "simplier" life without design.
( I would say piece of dirt. But then a mighty chorus would swell up "Evolution does not concerned origin of life issues. You don't understand Evolution." )

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