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Topic: Evolutionary superiority
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
Someone finally told you what you want to hear? You must be thrilled. But does it not take the lustre off the prize, when you reflect that as Heinrik is not capable of telepathy, his fantasies about what's going on other people's heads is, y'know, stuff he's made up? Which stuff have I made up?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
Someone finally told you what you want to hear? You must be thrilled. But does it not take the lustre off the prize, when you reflect that as Heinrik is not capable of telepathy, his fantasies about what's going on other people's heads is, y'know, stuff he's made up? Which stuff have I made up? Edited by Heinrik, : twice is good 
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 162 of 302 (453982)
02-05-2008 1:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 155 by AdminNosy
02-04-2008 11:35 AM
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Re: Two days for Hill Billy unless...
Not even an attempt at it using your own definition of meaningful. Dictionary: meaningful(m'nng-fl) adj. Having meaning, function, or purpose. Fraught with meaning; significant: A meaningful glance. as opposed to NOT meaningful...............
Message 14 of 161 01-30-2008 03:48 AM Reply to: Message 1 by Hill Billy 01-29-2008 01:41 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- jibbery jobbery joop.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Bid To Save Topic
hill Billy. post 1. writes: Evolutionists feel superior.
Hill Billy presented plenty of evidence to support this statement. The debate is about evolutionists feeling superior, as opposed to being superior. A subtle difference you must have missed.
Evolutionary superiority is the chosen title of this topic and I interpret this to mean that evolutionists really believe their theory to be superior over Creationism. Well, let's look at the facts and see: Hope this may save the original topic. regards
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 164 of 302 (453986)
02-05-2008 1:45 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by RAZD
01-29-2008 1:12 PM
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Re: ironic aint it
What was the word again, Razd? I must have missed it. Ironic. The whole end of one thread was taken up by you and hill billy protesting some apparent superiority, and now hill billy has started a thread on it. Ironic that, me missing the word, missing the thread and missing your post. Which was that thread again? The one where we took up the whole end of it?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Or it could be that they're not as talented as the creationists in at least one way. They may not be as capable of telling themselves comforting lies which, amongst other things, would automatically mean that they would be not only superior, but more valuable in the eyes of God. The creationists are automatically and by definition, in their own minds, the most superior and most valuable people on earth. This is why they don't get on very well maybe. Point taken. Humourous too.
So, what I'm pointing out on this thread is that the accusation of feeling more "valuable", as hillbilly puts it in his O.P., are far better directed at creationists than evolutionists. About equally I would guess.
If anyone wants to dispute this point, they're welcome to try, and I'll be happy to debate it.... but that they'll lose the debate is something I'm sure of, not just because I'm a typical evolutionist superior debater (of course) but because people who believe that they follow the true religion and that others don't are always an elite in their own minds, regardless of the religion I will be in that. Are you going to propose the topic or shall I?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
Your fantasies My fantasies about "WHAT" exactly going on in other peoples heads? I never mention my fantasies to anyone. How would you know? You saying I have fantasies going on in my head does not make it so. You cannot possibly know unless you are a mind reader. Read what is on my mind now that I'm not saying. Or are you being facetious?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
Seriously, taking it as true that : evolutionists believe themselves more valuable and taking it that the value is placed on levels of education, in turn showing levels of intelligence, then I would say the answer is : because they don't actually feel valuable as human beings alone. They need a label that lifts them high enough to look down on someone else to make them feel better about themselves. This is the offending post. ah. My love, it was a hypothesis. You have to read the small print (so to speak). The introduction clearly states........taking it as true..........blah blah....then I would say........... I could have said If this is true and it would mean the same. Just another little communication problem.
In fact, I can. You see, there is another way to find out what people think besides trying to read their minds, and that is by listening to them when they tell you what they think. The great thing about this method is that it usually works. Yes, exactly how I do it. So where did 'fantasy' come from? regards Edited by Heinrik, : No reason given.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
definition of hypothesisa proposal intended to explain certain facts or observations
Definition of fantasy:The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy. See synonyms at imagination. Something, such as an invention, that is a creation of the fancy. A capricious or fantastic idea; a conceit. Fiction characterized by highly fanciful or supernatural elements. An example of such fiction. An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need. An unrealistic or improbable supposition. drinadequate writes: * What Creationists Believe Creationists believe that the universe was created thousands and thousands of years ago by a dog. This is where the word "dogma" comes from. The idea of the universe made by a dog is so ridiculous that it is incredible that anyone would believe it. How could a dog make a universe with its little bitty paws? Your imagination took hold of this one too. Is this the kind of material you use in a serious adult debate? Or was it meant to be a joke? Or on the other hand did you spell god backwards, but then it would be godma. Hey that sounds alright! Edited by Heinrik, : No reason given. Edited by Heinrik, : No reason given.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Double double ?
hill billy writes: Credit WHERE it's due! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations on standing your ground. I understood every point you made. Your tenacity on this forum equals mine. Isn't equality great! touche!
hill billy writes: Let's give credit where it's due instead of as required. This is so poignant. Maybe I should nominate it for post of the month? Where are you?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Hey, that's not bad!
I'm bored now!
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 182 of 302 (454906)
02-09-2008 9:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 180 by Larni
02-09-2008 5:15 AM
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Re: No garbage here.
Hi Larni, nice to be back. I was shut out there for a little while so I went visiting another forum. Got myself into trouble there too by sort of slagging oprah winfrey off. Why are americans so protective of her?
I knew it! I knew you were Dameeva!
Yay It was great fun but I got them mixed up loads of times. Nobody noticed though. I thought I would be rumbled well before I retired dameeva. I feel bollock naked now though. I'm going for a wander in the other threads. Perhaps I'll see you around. regards
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 183 of 302 (454908)
02-09-2008 9:28 AM
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Reply to: Message 178 by Blue Jay
02-08-2008 11:46 PM
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Re: This Topic
From my perspective, I find it extremely prideful to reject all material evidence in favor of belief in something based on personal feelings. What about true beliefs built on rational feeling, life experience and logic? No proof whatsoever. I have a few that no way could be proved scientifically and no-one who hasn't had these experiences would believe it.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 194 of 302 (455056)
02-10-2008 12:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 192 by nator
02-09-2008 6:01 PM
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Re: This Topic
I don't wish you to think I am referring to a religious belief. Not at all.
I have beliefs that I trust to be true through rational feeling, life experience and logic.
Are you saying my beliefs could be scientifically tested? If I have no proof other than my expert testimony, the truth of my testimony would be based on if you believe me or not. How could this be tested?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 196 of 302 (455082)
02-10-2008 8:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 195 by nator
02-10-2008 7:11 AM
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Re: This Topic
I would love to have a go. Do you want the belief and reasons why I believe it? I will give you a belief and have a think about it. Questions help me a lot, so feel free. I believe my sole purpose on this earth is to become aware/realize that I am the sole creator of my own life experiences.
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