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kongstad
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Message 28 of 171 (477830)
08-08-2008 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
08-08-2008 12:04 AM


Re: Footnotes
This association is just one of a number of corroborated associations of Obama which implicate him as a hard core socialist and as a borderline Marxist who's agenda includes the redistribution of wealth to the extent that socialist regimes have gone in the past, a policy which reduced the nations to what we have witnessed in the days of the USSR.
So the argument is that since Obama has been associated with socialists, then Obama himself must be one?
What a strange conclusion to make!
Socialism is not a disease (and neither is marxism).
If you want to accuse Obama of being bordeline marxist, and of a desire to redistribute wealth more aggressively, then pointing to his aquintences is not enough. Please specify where, when and how Obama himself has acted in a way wich indicates such wishes. Quilt by association is just a silly game.
Finally, what is it with the US and the blind fear of anything from the left spectrum of the political divide? My guess is that if you go through Obamas background you'll find more democrats and republicans amongst his associations, but somehow conservatism is not a communicable disease but socialism is!
You have yet to come up with a single argument as to why this book is not just as much of a hack job as the earlier book the author was ossociated with (the swift boat debacle)

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kongstad
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Message 31 of 171 (477837)
08-08-2008 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
08-08-2008 7:56 AM


Re: Footnotes
I haven't read the book. But I believe I refuted your argument that if Obame had a socialist as a mentor, then Obama must have marxist leanings.
So we can agree that whether Frank was a socialist or not, this has no bearing on whether Obama harbours marxist leanings, yes?

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kongstad
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Posts: 175
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Joined: 02-24-2004


Message 37 of 171 (478043)
08-11-2008 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Buzsaw
08-08-2008 8:44 PM


Re: Footnotes
Buzsaw writes:
kongstad writes:
So we can agree that whether Frank was a socialist or not, this has no bearing on whether Obama harbours marxist leanings, yes?
His socialist/Marxist mentor, Frank, would be proud of his record and the slick way he skirts around the specifics of issues in statements he makes while campaigning.
I take this to be an affirmative. Nice to see that we agree that this "Franks" political leanings have no bearing on whether Obama have marxist leanings.
Can we then agree that suggesting they have bearing is just a misguided attempt at slander?

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