What i can't understand about evolution....

imagine the a 50 story building. Where do they start the work of building it...at the top? No, it all begins with the foundations.it seems that evolution is working its way down, then it gets stuck in the mud when it comes to how the life that they are examining, actually came into existence in the first place.I'll tell you why they cant explain it... because they refuse to accept that an intelligent designer may have actually been its source.

Percy you are reading my mind... i had this same thought recently (well not exactly the same, i dont know how hard one would be to produce but surely it wouldnt be impossible) why dont you boys n girls get your heads together and come up with an evolutionary tree...that would be awesome and i would love to see it.

subbie,im sorry but i dont understand what is meant by daughter population.Is it like the first generation of offspring,

ok, i think i need to rephrase my ape question just so everyone knows what i was askingthe 'lower' apes....lets change that to the 'earlier'and the 'higher' apes...lets change to homo sapien type apesas in the evolution pictures of gorillas to manthe earlier apes (gorillas/monkeys etc) are still here today, but the evolved species (hominoids/neanderthal ect) have become extinctfirstly, if the earlier ape types are still here, then as was said, they are perfectly adapted to their environment hence they are not extinctbut if they were perfectly adapted to their environment, why did some evolve into homosapient types, and others stay the same?

a family tree would come in real handy right now

hi radz, so this is based on an assumption, not evidence.Im wondering how many other aspects of evolution are based on conjecture, and how much really can be based on actual evidence?

RADZ are there any current/living species where this is seen to occur?perhaps an example will help me visualize (my right brain speaking)

Hi Helper,welcome to evc it was said earlier that some creatures have not evolved such as crocodiles...apparently they are the same and havnt changed in hundreds of thousands of years.
So, what does this imply? Does it mean that the crocodile is perfectly adapted to its environment and therefore has not had need to evolve? Or Does it mean that evolution is not random but rather directed somehow?

firstly, 'boys n girls' was not meant in a derogatory way in the slightest...i would include myself in thatand i did look at your links and i guess i'm hoping you dont rest your belief of a 'tree of life' on those linksthis is what is said from the first link ....

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Although the idea of a "tree of life" arose from ancient notions of a ladder-like progression from lower to higher forms of life (such as in the Great Chain of Being), Charles Darwin (1859) first illustrated and popularized the notion of an evolutionary "tree" in his seminal book The Origin of Species. Over a century later, evolutionary biologists still use tree diagrams to depict evolution because the floral analogy effectively conveys the concept that speciation occurs through the adaptive and random splitting of lineages.

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and this is what they say about the 'tree' in the your 2nd link

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The rooting of the Tree of Life, and the relationships of the major lineages, are controversial. The monophyly of Archaea is uncertain, and recent evidence for ancient lateral transfers of genes indicates that a highly complex model is needed to adequately represent the phylogenetic relationships among the major lineages of Life.

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this does not inspire confidence unfortunately, but thank you for trying.

you dont think its possible that evolutionary scientists, who are trying to prove their theory, could be interpreting the data to fit in with their preconceived ideas that life is a product of evolution and not creation?there have been many scientific frauds in the recent past that show that some will go to extraordinary lengths for evolution

in the same way that i am the common ancestor of my great great great great great great great great great great great great grandparents?

im not sure that is a very good comparison Percy,it is quite clear why bad things happen and why God allows it...if theologians havn't worked it out yet, then there is something wrong with their theology

hi DevilsAdvocate,i really want to see a 'tree' that shows the roots ...ie, where it all begantwo were posted from wiki, but i dont want one that doubts its own accuracy... i want one that is accurate and precise and one that can provide evidence for where the roots beganperhaps i'm asking for something that does not exist?

now now, dont be like that! I actually did look at the web project...although i must admit, it wasnt as informative as i would have liked. It has lots of names and pictures but little explanation. Pasteur’s experiments of nearly a hundred years ago demolished that theory. If it is argued that abiogenesis does not occur now but did occur in bygone ages, that is merely speculation. We should still see spontaneous generation of life from non living matter but it just doesnt happen.

hi helper, its been mentioned by another poster (bluescat48) that evolution IS randomhence why the crocodile is a remarkable example because how is it that in a world where all things evolve, this one species has not? That indicates that evolution is NOT random...it also implies that either its purposeful in that it occurs under some circumstances but not others, or its being directed somehow,orthe current explanation is flawed and the reading of the fossil record is inaccurate