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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 74 of 277 (497619)
02-05-2009 4:24 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Buzsaw
02-04-2009 11:42 PM


Re: Responses To OP Questions
Buzsaw writes:
1. There would have to be a whole lot more evidence of transitional fossils in place now to get me into the notion of evolution and out of the Biblical POV. That is pie in the sky. Imo, there should be millions of specimens.
There are millions of transitional fossils as every fossil is inherently transitional. Your lack of cognitive ability to understand this is exactly what the ToE says is not an impediment to its validity.
2. Nearly all of the latter day unfulfilled prophecies are beginning to emerge into fulfillment so there's little left to dissuade me from the Biblical POV.
Yes, Tyre is uninhabited to this day and Jesus returned in 1844 but he is in hiding.
3. There's enough evidence in place so that if things like the flood were empirically falsified, I would stick with that evidence and conclude that there were errors in the record.
It would not matter how much evidence there is against any global flood to as you would not believe even God if he told you otherwise. (as God has done through physics, chemistry, geology, biology, anthropology, history, and linguistics in at least 100 categories of millions of pieces of evidence).
4. There's far too much personal experience empirical evidence for me ever to become an apostate. Of course that evidence is empirical to me and not such that I should expect you to acknowledge.
Your relationship with whatever personal god you have made up is meaningless to me except when you try to use the levers of state to force me and mine to worship your, what in IMO, is a false god of hate and fear. To me and many others this constitutes a rejection of the message of Jesus Christ, who preached love, feeding the poor, healing the sick, and turning the other cheek.
Now my friend, let me ask you a question. If it could be empirically demonstrated and verified that the debris relative to the Exodus at the Nuweiba sandbar was indeed charriot parts, that the split rock in the region was relative to the Exodus and that the black top mountain in the region was indeed Mt Sinai, imperially verified by additional artifacts in the region, would you be convinced of the Biblical record relative to that event?
Obviously this is not addressed to me as your hatred of what I have to say, from your posts, likely extends to my person in your case. But to answer your question the answer would be an emphatic NO if it came from your usual dishonest sources who violate a Commandment of God.
Edited by anglagard, : Had to add the term 'from your posts,likely' to second to last sentence as I do not know Buzsaw except through his posts and therefore make no claim to be his judge, a position exclusively reserved to God under the terms of the Bible itself.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 98 of 277 (498205)
02-09-2009 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Buzsaw
02-05-2009 12:23 PM


Re: Responses To OP Questions
Buzsaw writes:
Don't ask me here to elaborate as that would lead off topic.
Just as any contradiction to the almighty Buzsaw is inherently judged to be off topic as you are the pretended owner and final arbiter of this forum. Perhaps the moderators of this forum should be allowed to govern in your stead.
Anglagard writes:
Yes, Tyre is uninhabited to this day and Jesus returned in 1844 but he is in hiding.
Buzsaw writes:
These are either debatable or strawmen examples. The 1944 example is totally strawman as it is not a Biblical prophecy. It is a nut case example of someone's ignorance of the Biblical prophecies.
Of course you have been nailed on the Tyre example for one even if you can't admit it. As to the other, it does not necessarily apply to you but as a supporter of all and any enemies of evolution, genetics, and the germ theory of disease perhaps you should check with the Seventh Day Adventists as their foundation is weaseling out of any prophecy for any second coming. Maybe your friends have some baggage.
BTW, it is 1844 instead of 1944. why should anyone believe in a person who is so sloppy in their comprehension
anglagard writes:
It would not matter how much evidence there is against any global flood to as you would not believe even God if he told you otherwise. (as God has done through physics, chemistry, geology, biology, anthropology, history, and linguistics in at least 100 categories of millions of pieces of evidence).
Buzsaw writes:
That's all debatable and not for this thread.
Yes indeed it is debatable, so show your chops when denying all of physics, chemistry, geology, biology, anthropology, history, and linguistics instead of just judging our souls in the absence of your 'god.'
Buzsaw writes:
1. Another strawman. That we disagree is not tantamount to hate on my part towards you as a person.
Glad to hear that.
2. Your "emphatic NO" is a blind unsupported assertion. If you think sources which I've cited for the Exodus are evil and disobedient to God, feel free to bring up the threads support your charge in another thread.
I would not go to the extreme that all should defer to your insight if Hovind and Baugh are marketed as representatives of your god on earth considering their faked credentials.
The rest is just too much, and at this point I just don't care as long as your hate and fear is not used to corrupt politics and public education.
Yeah right.
Edited by anglagard, : missed an =

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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