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Dawn Bertot
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Message 86 of 277 (497747)
02-05-2009 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Straggler
02-05-2009 4:52 PM


Re: Faith and desire.
Straggler writes:
NOTE: In this discussion it is not my intention to examine specific interpretations of evidences. I am not trying to trick you into suggesting that your particular interpretation of specific evidence is wrong. I am merely trying to establish whether or not 'external'/physical evidence is critical or supplementary to maintaining your belief in God.
But this thread is about analysing the faith of Christians in order to determine whether 'external'/physical evidence or internal/subjective "evidence" provides the basis for such beliefs.
Ok, the answer(to questions 1-5, of post 1 of the OP) is, yes it does, its a combination of both, so what is your point? Every belief is composed of some subjective "evidence" regardless of what that belief may be, including, theism, atheism, religions, the TOE, and every religious belief system. Again, what is the specific point you are trying to make by asking the above questions?
Ive read all of the previous posts in this connection and fail to see why a lack of evidence in some areas constitutes a lack of evidence in a foundational or structural capacity, to not, instill a viable belief, given the fact that a belief is either supportable or it is not, atleast from its inception.
Do you have a specific point? Because the following paragraph by yourself, involves itself in misconception and misrepresentation of what is actually believed. Your write:
Do you require that fossils, archaology etc. (all forms of external objective physical evidence that can be experienced by all) support your view in order to maintain your belief in God? Or would your inner, subjective and uniquely personal experience of God's existence be enough to maintain your beliefs even IF all of the physical evidence were to contradict the biblical record?
Since this is in no way, the way in which Buzz, ICANT, John,Jaywill, Iano or myself proceed, why ask such a question in the first place. It assumes something that is not correct in the first place.
Maybe you could clear up this misconception on your part.
D Bertot
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