Message 1 of 107 (518912) 08-09-2009 2:57 PM

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Now, I was a liberal arts guy in college, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I highly doubt that any real science courses in which one gets a real science education at a real university or college has any similar course requirement. It seems that the Wedge Strategy is still alive.

Edited by subbie, : Noun change in title

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 5 of 107 (518928) 08-09-2009 6:54 PM

Reply to: Message 3 by Taz 08-09-2009 5:18 PM

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 6 of 107 (518929) 08-09-2009 7:00 PM

Reply to: Message 4 by Theodoric 08-09-2009 5:26 PM

You know, the more I think about it, the more sense that makes. They know that they're not going to create any controversy in legitimate, professional publications. About the only avenue left for them is teh interwebs. And that would have the added advantage of being considerably more accessible to the general public than professional publications.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 16 of 107 (519042) 08-10-2009 8:38 PM

His first comment is that he thinks it "sticks in [Darwinists'] craw" that he sends his students out to post on hostile websites. I won't pretend to speak for anyone else, but it certainly doesn't stick in my craw. In fact, without a fairly regular infusion of fresh creo blood, this place gets rather stale. It would be nice if he'd coach them to raise something besides PRATTs, but then that wouldn't leave them much to say, would it?

Next, apparently he thinks

I might agree if he required his students to actually engage in a debate, rather than simply hitting and running. I suppose it's possible that he makes it clear in class that engagement is required, but it's certainly not made clear in the on-line syllabus.

If all that's required is a certain quantity of writing, surely there'd be no need that it consist of forum board posts. If engagement is required, there's nothing online to suggest that. All of this suggests to me that my earlier supposition that Dembski thinks this somehow furthers some aspect of the Wedge Strategy is accurate.

Oh, also, apparently I'm projecting in calling them trolls. I acknowledge, as some have pointed out, that troll probably isn't technically accurate. So sue me.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 22 of 107 (519123) 08-11-2009 3:12 PM

Reply to: Message 21 by RAZD 08-11-2009 7:43 AM

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 24 of 107 (519127) 08-11-2009 3:57 PM

Reply to: Message 23 by Coyote 08-11-2009 3:51 PM

Sadly, I beg to differ. If Dover wasn't enough to convince someone of the religious nature of ID, this isn't going to make any difference. The best that we can hope for is that this will help win the next court, or perhaps legislative, battle.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Message 65 of 107 (589454) 11-02-2010 5:04 PM

Thank you.

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 91 of 107 (589755) 11-04-2010 10:30 AM

Reply to: Message 90 by Dawn Bertot 11-04-2010 10:28 AM

If you can't tell that this is off topic, perhaps you should stop posting in this thread entirely.

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 100 of 107 (589864) 11-04-2010 8:03 PM

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 105 of 107 (596143) 12-13-2010 12:57 PM

Reply to: Message 101 by BarackZero 12-13-2010 12:44 PM

It's a transitional form between creationist and design proponent, giving us clear evidence of the evolution of creationism in response to various court decisions.

{AbE}

Oh, BTW, are you aware that when Thomas Jefferson was talking about ridicule being the only weapon against unintelligible propositions, he was talking about the Christian concept of the Trinity? Just curious.

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 107 of 107 (596154) 12-13-2010 1:45 PM

Reply to: Message 106 by Panda 12-13-2010 1:07 PM

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist