How can we regulate guns ... ?

RAZD writes:Make the ammunition and the ammunition delivery systems illegal to own or posses and unavailable in stores, and those empty guns won't help them. Attrition will remove them as they break or are lost or thrown away.

RAZD writes:It has been done in other countries, so it can be done here ... if it is the will of the people.

Why don't you present the arguments to back up that assertion?

Curiously, I did a little reading on this subject:Page not found - Truthout

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The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery

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The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.

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In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states.

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In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.

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If the anti-slavery folks in the North had figured out a way to disband - or even move out of the state - those southern militias, the police state of the South would collapse. And, similarly, if the North were to invite into military service the slaves of the South, then they could be emancipated, which would collapse the institution of slavery, and the southern economic and social systems, altogether.

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These two possibilities worried southerners like James Monroe, George Mason (who owned over 300 slaves) and the southern Christian evangelical, Patrick Henry (who opposed slavery on principle, but also opposed freeing slaves).

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So the amendment was made to allow the southern states keep - and kill - slaves without federal interference.

Remember the Republicans freed the slaves.

The democrats have placed many black people back under slavery along with a larger numbers of white people as some 49% of the population is dependent on Uncle Sam to provide money for them to buy food and goods to survive on. All that is demanded in return is their votes at election time.

RAZD writes:like someone that will shoot first and ask questions later if someone enters their house.

RAZD writes:like George Zimmerman shooting Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager.

Yea like in Switzerland where every house has a gun and gun deaths are so low they do not even keep a record of them.

RAZD writes:This was part of the political compromise to get the states to ratify the constitution.

RAZD writes:Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation, but it was not passed without bipartisan support. There was also a lot of public support.

RAZD writes:Including the soldiers in the armed forces and national guard units, the veterans and their kin, etc etc etc.

RAZD writes:People don't live in poverty because they want to ICANT.

RAZD writes:Especially when the current "republicans" wants to similarly "enslave" all workers with poverty wages for their corporate fascist owners. They also want to get rid of the safeguards that keep people out of total abject poverty.

RAZD writes:Are the people working for Wall-Mart forced to use federal subsidies

Of course the criminal stuff is part of a government database; anyone who does a background check accesses the court records when searching for convictions, arrests, etc. This happens on federal, state, and local levels.

The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery
The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states.In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.If the anti-slavery folks in the North had figured out a way to disband - or even move out of the state - those southern militias, the police state of the South would collapse. And, similarly, if the North were to invite into military service the slaves of the South, then they could be emancipated, which would collapse the institution of slavery, and the southern economic and social systems, altogether.These two possibilities worried southerners like James Monroe, George Mason (who owned over 300 slaves) and the southern Christian evangelical, Patrick Henry (who opposed slavery on principle, but also opposed freeing slaves).

omnivorous writes:It is curious that in such a lengthy, pasty post you could not provide evidence for your concluding assertion.

ICANT writes:The democrats have placed many black people back under slavery along with a larger numbers of white people as some 49% of the population is dependent on Uncle Sam to provide money for them to buy food and goods to survive on. All that is demanded in return is their votes at election time.

The democrats have placed many black people back under slavery along with a larger numbers of white people as some 49% of the population is dependent on Uncle Sam to provide money for them to buy food and goods to survive on.

I'm going to assume that in order to reach numbers as high as 49% that you are including retirees who are dependent on social security and retired servicemen. And you want to compare that with slavery? Seriously dude. Get a grip.

The problem is that the quote box was authored by ICANT, but by leaving out something like "ICANT writes:" above the quote box, it looks like NoNukes is replying to RAZD as if RAZD wrote the quote box..