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10-09-2013 4:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 260 by ringo
09-11-2013 4:54 PM

Re: Your examples are not equivalent and in the OP no rights were infringed.
ProtoTypical writes:
People have the rights that they claim and that they can defend.
Yes, that's the feudal system but we've moved beyond that. In a democracy, we decide which rights we will grant each other - i.e. which ones are worth defending.
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Then a remnant of the feudal system survives, and will always survive, Ringo.
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Proto is correct. We have only those rights we can defend. People can tell themselves they have a right against unusual search and seizure but if they do not zealously defend that right then we get things like the TSA. Without constant defense of a right against the encroachment of government and society, even in those most disagreeable instances, then that "right" is nothing but platitude.
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10-09-2013 10:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 269 by ringo
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Re: Your examples are not equivalent and in the OP no rights were infringed.
We must defend ourselves against the encroachment of ourselves.
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Yup. Vigilance always. And in a democracy, especially from ourselves.
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