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Author Topic:   Open letter to all Atheists.
subbie
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Message 5 of 235 (726042)
05-05-2014 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
05-05-2014 9:16 PM


riverrat writes:
...that offends me.
Good.
Christians need to be offended more than they are. Your particular delusion is no more deserving of protection or governmental support than any other delusion, and the sooner you accept that the better off it will be for everyone.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 47 of 235 (726141)
05-06-2014 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by riVeRraT
05-06-2014 1:24 PM


riverrat writes:
As far as separation of church and state goes, that should not be used to take God out of government. That's not what it was meant for. Our very first document states that our rights are endowed by our creator.
What a load of horseshit. "Creator" didn't mean the same thing to them as it does to you. It certainly didn't mean the Christian deity.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 49 of 235 (726144)
05-06-2014 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by riVeRraT
05-06-2014 3:59 PM


riverrat writes:
Religious leaders have no place in our government, but government leaders can be religious. To stop that is an infringement on many rights.
Lookit you! Singlehandedly felling vast armies of strawmen! I am in awe.
Nobody that I know has ever talked about banning government leaders who are religious. In fact, I've heard a hell of a lot more people say they'd never vote for an atheist than have said they'd never vote for a Christian.
riverrat writes:
The Declaration of Independence mentions a diety more than once. That is the foundation of the bill of rights and our constitution.
No, it absolutely isn't. But thanks for playing.
{AbE}
riverrat writes:
I am also offended by several labels that were placed on me in this thread. So the hypocrisy continues..... religious bigotry. You guys have no right to anger. You won't stop name calling with name calling.
Hmmm, I've scanned the thread and I can't find anyone calling you any names. I've seen people take issue with ridiculous things you say, and attacking your specious arguments, but nobody calling you names. Can you give examples?
Edited by subbie, : As noted.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 55 of 235 (726164)
05-06-2014 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by faceman
05-06-2014 4:52 PM


faceman writes:
For evolution to be true, there can be no God - or at the very least He would become a liar. So indirectly, atheism is being taught in public schools, via evolution.
If you made the foolish choice of believing in a religious doctrine that is directly contradicted by known scientific facts, that doesn't place on public schools any obligation to protect you and your ignorance from the truth. See Epperson v. Arkansas, 393 U.S. 97 (1968) .

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 68 of 235 (726182)
05-06-2014 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by faceman
05-06-2014 10:02 PM


faceman writes:
Good thing I didn't make that foolish choice then.
Your behavior in this thread belies that statement, unless you are attempting to create some sort of Colbert-like parody persona. If that is the case, you are failing miserably to this point.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 75 of 235 (726191)
05-06-2014 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by riVeRraT
05-06-2014 11:10 PM


riverrat writes:
This was an open letter to Atheists who are offended by prayer. Are you?
I think you will find, if you bother to ask, that very few atheists are offended by prayer, so long as that prayer is not government sponsored or supported in any way.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 78 of 235 (726194)
05-07-2014 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by faceman
05-07-2014 12:11 AM


faceman writes:
In what capacity? Did He create life and then just walk away? That doesn't make sense. A being capable of creating everything, must be more complex than His creation - otherwise He becomes obsolete.
In other words, if He is more complex than we are, it's illogical to conclude that He would create us and then fade away into obscurity.
Only if you assume a creator consistent with the Christian deity, or some other similar entity.
Perhaps the universe is a high school science experiment that was accidentally left running over summer vacation. Then the creator might have completely forgotten about it the first time he espied a pretty girl and we're simply waiting for the janitor to come along and toss us into the rubbish bin.
While there's certainly no evidence to support such a hypothesis, there's nothing illogical about it either.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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