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Topic: Open letter to all Atheists.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 17 of 235 (726079)
05-06-2014 12:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
05-05-2014 9:16 PM
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riVeRraT writes: If you are offended by prayer in public places, or government institutions, that offends me.
Public prayer in Canada would be likely to begin, "Hail Mary, full of grace...." The way things are going it will soon be, "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." That doesn't offend me. Maybe it would offend you?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 118 of 235 (726257)
05-07-2014 12:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 21 by riVeRraT
05-06-2014 1:24 PM
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riVeRraT writes: I am NOT offended by atheists. I am grateful for them. They help clean up crony religion and I believe are actually doing God's work.
I'm going to start wearing my collar backwards.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 121 of 235 (726262)
05-07-2014 1:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by riVeRraT
05-07-2014 1:01 PM
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riVeRraT writes: Also who is to say God didn't create all religions for his purpose?
Who's to say we didn't reate gods for our purposes?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 139 of 235 (726347)
05-08-2014 11:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 138 by Phat
05-08-2014 11:41 AM
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Re: IF God is
Phat writes: He may foreknow...but do we foreknow how we will end up?
That depends on whether or not we can believe His threats.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 183 of 235 (726995)
05-14-2014 12:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 175 by riVeRraT
05-14-2014 7:38 AM
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Re: evolution vs God/creation
riVeRraT writes: So while schools do not openly teach atheism, their way of teaching leaves anyone with a rational mind no other logical conclusion.
Well, there is no other logical conclusion. No evidence → no true premises → no possible logical conclusion. Any belief in gods is non-logical. Why do theists have such a high opinion of logic anyway? It's just another tool. You don't complain that the instruction manual for your hammer doesn't mention God, do you?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 226 of 235 (730165)
06-24-2014 12:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 201 by riVeRraT
06-23-2014 2:01 PM
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Re: evolution vs God/creation
riVeRraT writes: What you and creation scientists need to learn is that the Creator of the universe said to believe in Him by faith. So you aren't going to find any (objective) evidence.
What you need to learn is that everybody already knows that. That's why I said that belief in gods is non-logical (not necessarily illogical). Without evidence, logic has nothing to work on.
riVeRraT writes: Funny thing that faith though, because all of science requires faith.
Silly boy, you don't understand faith at all, do you?
riVeRraT writes: But the instruction "manual" for a hammer should say "God forbid you hit yourself in the nuts with this tool".
The point was, "Why do theists have such a high opinion of logic anyway? It's just another tool." Do you have a problem with belief being non-logical?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 227 of 235 (730167)
06-24-2014 12:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 215 by Faith
06-24-2014 2:24 AM
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Re: But Jesus was offended by public prayer
Faith writes: That's of course because its consistency is something that is spiritually discerned, seen clearly only by believers.
And pink elephants are seen clearly only by drunks.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 228 of 235 (730168)
06-24-2014 12:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 198 by riVeRraT
06-23-2014 1:46 PM
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riVeRraT writes: I am not offended by atheists because I think they are from God. There is plenty of evidence around of their agenda being pushed on me, this forum is a prime example.
So maybe it's God pushing the atheist agenda on you? That would be ironic. Incidentally, I've been trying to get hold of a copy of the atheist agenda. They won't send me one because I'm not a member of the club. I'd probably qualify but I'm not much of a joiner. Could we sneak a peek at your copy?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 233 of 235 (730271)
06-26-2014 11:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 229 by Phat
06-26-2014 12:14 AM
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Re: Its The Lack Of Proof, Stupid
So the atheist agenda is, "Life here and now is wonderful and should be lived to the fullest." It sounds a bit like, "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." I don't see why riVeRraT would object to having that "pushed" on him.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 234 of 235 (730273)
06-26-2014 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
06-26-2014 1:11 AM
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Re: Its The Lack Of Proof, Stupid
Phat writes: I will argue, however, that humanity needs more than human wisdom in order to solve the greater problems that we collectively face....
And I will continue to point out that Christians, for all of their "communion" and secret decoder rings, don't seem to have greater wisdom. They often don't exhibit either the ability or the inclination to help solve our collective problems.
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