|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total) |
| |
ChatGPT | |
Total: 916,902 Year: 4,159/9,624 Month: 1,030/974 Week: 357/286 Day: 0/13 Hour: 0/0 |
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Open letter to all Atheists. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member
|
In the U.S, there is a constitutional protection against the promotion of any religion by the government, whether or not some people are offended by or heartened by such promotion. Unfortunately, 3 of the Supreme Court justices think that as long as a practice is traditional it is okay, while two more think that as long as you are not being physically or legally forced to participate, anything Christian is okay. One of those five is not even convinced that the first amendment fully applies to the states. Anyone surprised by the verdict in Town of Greece v. Galloway has not been paying attention. About the only thing surprising here is the return of the rat. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
Fridays are National Darwinian Logical Fallacy Day (NDLFD), Yes, but apparently everyday is faceman 'Non sequitur' day, and we still manage to get other things done. So perhaps we can still allow some non-Christian noon-day prayer on Friday.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member
|
However, in telling us how not to be, you are telling us how to be and doing the same thing you don't want done to yourself. That logic offends me, not that you don't believe in God I don't care if you have sex with men or women, but I am going to insist that you don't do it in public. Is that hypocrisy? I don't have any problem finding all the time for prayer that I want. I don't feel any particular need to show off that need in a legislative setting, particularly when the prayers are led by the council members who would never welcome me at their church. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member
|
The "days" and "nights" in Genesis clearly rule out evolution, from God's perspective anyways. There would simply not be enough time. Is that what all devout Jews and Christians believe? Because if not, then teaching evolution would not be atheism at all. It would at most be teaching that your set of beliefs is wrong.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member
|
No, I'm almost certain that's not what they all believe. There are some Christians who believe in evolution, though I'm not sure how they sell themselves on that. The point is that right or wrong, none of those people are atheists. So evolution is not atheism.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
Your argument started off on a logical footing.
A blue sky is something we can observe just about every day, so she's no more teaching atheism then if she were to proclaim up is up and down is down. Or that true is true and false is false. And then the inevitable non sequitur. I wonder whether you or Blue will give in first and actually post a complete argument.
But then, we can't observe that like we can the blue sky, so we would then know that Jack don't know Jack. We cannot observe you either, so you never happened? Or is it okay to use less direct evidence to decide that some is making your posts.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member
|
Evolution does not comport with a Creator. To do so, would require the Creator to be fallible, which would disqualify Him as God (since the Creator must be perfect). So according to you, created beings which almost immediately disobey represents perfection, whereas a created being which evolves and produces more kinds, and in which no such Fall happens means God is imperfect. What you do, then is to take God's creation in which we can show that evolution happens even if we cannot show to you that humans evolved, and judge it to be lacking. What kind of idiot argument is that? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
Therefore whatever measuring stick you use, will have been made by Him and since He would be the Creator of that measuring stick, then He would at least fill it or more than likely surpass it. That's pretty stupid. I can measure your height using a stick with lines on it. Not nearly as complex as you. Your attempts at using logic stink on ice.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
C sharp is primarily a statically typed language. It is possible to circumvent that, but probably bad practice.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
He spoke all the time in public to believers and non-believers and prayed for them. An example or two from scripture would be helpful to back this up. Meanwhile Mathew 6:6 is a scripture supporting the opposite proposition.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
Whatever is the rationale for not allowing prayer at town meetings, there is no longer any point in defending that position based on the first amendment.
The majority of the Supreme Court has held that such prayers are traditional, and that even when the prayers invoke Jesus Christ and no other, the prayers do not have religious implication.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
I don't see why riVeRraT would object to having that "pushed" on him. It does seem strange. But if your religion requires you to proselytize, then limitations that interfere with your practice of your religion. And if your religion is the majority view point, then having to make allowance for a minority can make your butt hurt.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024