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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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I asked Cortina to play me "are friends electric" and she found me this video on you tube. After it played I said, "Did you like that song Cortina?" To which she responded: " I don't have a opinion." I then said, "Shut up Cortina." She reponded with: "I have been programmed to have the last word." The future is here!! **Cortina is Microsofts virtual assistant version of Siri**"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2728 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined:
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Hi, Xongsmith.
xongsmith writes: Here is how your post should read:
You two people with numbers for names aren't allowed to talk to each other: you might give the impression that this is upon us. Of course, since Donald Trump is ushering in the Dawn of Fascism in America, it's probably only a matter of time before we all have serial numbers for names and mind-altering PC drugs to keep us all in line, so perhaps we should all be voting for Bernie? But, negative press about Trump seems to just make more people vote for him. So I opted for parody instead. It's a coping mechanism.-Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Blue Jay writes: But, negative press about Trump seems to just make more people vote for him. Sure seems that way. Here is one endorsers explanation. I think it justifies a theory that for at least some voters, that Trump's best plan is to stand pat and not cave under the heat of negative press.
quote: Of course Baio is also famous for this gem.
quote: Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
If Trump does get elected (after all we did see a "B" actor get elected twice) what realistically would happen?
Look to Illinois. We have this going on right now. The voters, in their wisdom (or lack thereof) elected a business man as governor. He promised to run the state as a business. The state is operating without a budget. Some state services are funded by court order. The governor is very much in favor of compromise. He gives the orders, and legislature does what he tells them -- that's his idea of compromise. Unsurpisingly, the legislature doesn't do what he tells them, resulting in stalemate.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The biggest difference is that the Governor of Illinois will have little effect on the rest of the nation or the world.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The governor is very much in favor of compromise. He gives the orders, and legislature does what he tells them -- that's his idea of compromise. Unsurpisingly, the legislature doesn't do what he tells them, resulting in stalemate. I'd be willing to make a trade. Here in NC we've got a governor and legislature that are on the same page with respect to an aggressively, southern republican doctrine. I wish we did have some legislative push back. Last week, the state legislature held a special session to pass legislation making it illegal for local and city governments to set a minimum wage higher than that of the state or to pass any anti-discrimination legislation. Of course it was immediately signed by the governor. You states with ineffectual not get along legislatures may not know how good you really have things. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I still don't see the inconsistency. Once someone has elected to speak, for whatever reason, if the government intervenes to stop them, why isn't it appropriate to complain about a lack of freedom. I never suggested that the government should stop them from speaking. Or from spending their money. I merely suggested that it might be even easier for them to spend their money if they had it and could choose how to disburse it. This seems fairly unarguable.
Not quite. The shareholders can forfeit whatever profits they chose to forfeit. It is the company officers that has a fiduciary duty to the shareholders and not vice versa. Perhaps your remarks should be limited to just the board and CEO. I said "the obligation of the corporation". Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I never suggested that the government should stop them from speaking. Or from spending their money. I merely suggested that it might be even easier for them to spend their money if they had it and could choose how to disburse it. This seems fairly unarguable. I suggest that having the corporation speak for them has been shown to be a very effective vehicle. In any event, the objection you are arguing is one for the shareholders to make and not the government. I don't see how your point argues for either an inconsistency or for overruling Citizen's United.
I said "the obligation of the corporation". Yes, you said that even if the shareholders were homophobes, the corporation was obligated not to indulge them. That's simply not correct. The fiduciary duty of officers in a corporation is strictly to the shareholders. If the shareholders want to forgo some profits for the purpose of some agenda, they can do so, and they may be able to get the corporation to do so. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson/status/713031146578128896
Thank you @TheView for having me on. Though we disagree on politics, only in America do we have platforms to discuss those differences.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I suggest that having the corporation speak for them has been shown to be a very effective vehicle. In any event, the objection you are arguing is one for the shareholders to make and not the government. I don't see how your point argues for either an inconsistency or for overruling Citizen's United. My point argues that it would not deprive the shareholders of their freedom to spend their own money if they were in fact free to spend it. Which does somewhat speak to Citizens United --- a law can't infringe our freedoms if no particular person's freedom is being infringed.
Yes, you said that even if the shareholders were homophobes, the corporation was obligated not to indulge them. That's simply not correct. The fiduciary duty of officers in a corporation is strictly to the shareholders. If the shareholders want to forgo some profits for the purpose of some agenda, they can do so, and they may be able to get the corporation to do so. If they vote on it at an AGM. Otherwise it seems that the dogma of shareholder value requires the board to ignore their mere sentiments.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Ted Cruz says that he has no desire to copulate with Donald Trump.
Finally an issue on which all Americans can unite.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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I would like to take this time to remind republicans, that out of 17 esteemed candidates you have narrowed your choice down to Donald trump and Ted Cruze.
Now sit back and reflect on that. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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I question the word "esteemed".
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