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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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We will wash it away. Won't we, jar?
Is the whole republic so far gone we can't do that? We can still do this. Can't we, jar? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : pleading
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The big problem is every time he says something considered sticking his foot in his mouth the Trumpettes cheer even louder. That was back when his stupid stuff actually reflected what a big segment actually believed. I don't think much of anyone is in favor of throwing women in jail. They want to punish doctors, with the most extreme element willing to even kill doctors. I think only about 4 people want to imprison woman who have had an abortion. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
AZPaul3 writes: Thus my request. Please take your fucking war crimes and your fucking dueling dictionaries and get the hell off my thread! I'm just briefly stepping in as Admin for this single post. I've been silent as Percy for a few days in case moderator action was required, but maybe now after AZPaul3's post that won't be necessary. I suggest that the war crimes discussion resume in the Presidential Candidates thread, or even better, in a new thread. If at least some participants are trying to engage in serious discussion then I will moderate so that the remaining participants follow suit.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes: jar writes:
We will wash it away. Won't we, jar? Il Duce was considered an easily controlled buffoon. Hitler was considered an easily controlled buffoon. Franois Duvalier was considered an easily controlled buffoon but a good doctor. Manuel Antonio Noriega was considered an easily controlled buffoon. Joseph-Desir Mobutu was considered an easily controlled buffoon. Is the whole republic so far gone we can't do that? We can still do this. Can't we, jar? Each of the examples I mentioned did get washed away (although there was a Baby Doc too) but the washing was expensive in lives and did take time and in almost every case the voters said "We didn't know!".Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This election gives me an uneasy feeling like no other. I realize that the vote will likely go down as Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton, and am concerned at the direction our country is taking. Personally I like Sanders. That being said, I was just exposed to quite a nifty piece of propaganda sent to me by one of my Christian friends.
The video is pro Trump and yet it paints a picture of the guy that is almost Messianic. In my belief, other Christians can no more tell me how to vote than can they tell me how to believe! This isn't funny anymore. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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nwr writes:
I just want to give Stephen Harper a big hug. The politicians we fire are better than the best you guys have to choose from.
Yes, I wish there were a better candidate than Hillary. But Sanders is not such a candidate.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It might be worthwhile reading It Can't Happen Here By Sinclair Lewis (another of those books that should be mandatory reading by 8th grade) which was written in 1935 (note the time frame). Many folk think it is referring to Adolph Hitler but it's far more likely that the target was more home grown, Huey Long, another darling of the conservatives and Bible Christians.
Why are there potential voters in the US today who are not aware of the book or Huey Long?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Why are there potential voters in the US today who are not aware of the book or Huey Long? To be honest, I have heard of Huey Long and also of Sinclair Lewis (The Jungle) but have never read this particular book. Yet.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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anglagard Member (Idle past 867 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
NWR writes: It's simple. She can get things done. And she has a better chance of winning in the general election. Sanders is an obscure politician whom most people had not heard of, until recently. His policy proposals are reasonable. I prefer them over Hillary's. But a president does not have the authority to carry them out. They are ideas that have to be won at the grass roots. Hillary knows how to work the grass roots. Sanders doesn't. The last time that the Democrats had a candidate like Sanders was in 1972. It was George McGovern, and he was whipped in the general election. At present, polls suggest that Sanders could win. But the Republicans have not yet aimed their big guns at him. When they do, they will say that he is a commie pinko, and they will use his own campaign speeches for that. His support will drop. By contrast, they have been attacking Hillary for 20 years, and she seems to be able to deal with their attacks. Yes, I wish there were a better candidate than Hillary. But Sanders is not such a candidate. Millennials disagree with your assessment. May you live long enough to witness, after Hillary meets and possibly exceeds the two war, one recession minimum set by the Bushes, Elizabeth Warren as President in 2020. Sheesh what pessimists, go back to reading Schopenhauer and stop picking on millennials before they wish you and your extremely limited idea of the possible - dead.Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2728 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Mod,
I thought I'd jump in on a couple of your quotes here:
quote: I can sort of agree with this sentiment: none of the candidates is really likely to accomplish the objectives they're setting out in their campaigns, because all their ideas involve legislation, which isn't the President's job. But, the "power" that Trump wields is the ability to rally the wackos. President Trump would probably function as a validation for a lot of extremists. He'd probably also release a constant stream of provocative speeches, which would embolden a lot of already-unapologetic people who really should be practicing more temperance. This is the kind of sociopolitical volatility that concerns me the most.
quote: Frankly, I think the Sanders campaign is fueled entirely by unbounded optimism. Since I'm not a natural optimist, "feeling the Bern" seems like a euphemism for cognitive dissonance to me.
quote: This doesn't just apply to Sanders: it applies to all the "one vote backwards to go two votes forward" concepts that people are sometimes talking about. Do we really think this kind of thing works? I have an autistic child. He doesn't learn from his mistakes very well, and has a difficult time getting out of his routines, even when he knows (intellectually) that his routine is causing him problems. So, the "Bruce Almighty" approach (give them the power so they can learn what happens when they use it wrong) never seemed like a good idea to me.-Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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From leading in Wisconsin by 10 points last month to a 13 point loss the Stop Trump movement has had a major impact. Unfortunately for Republicans their second major wingnut, Cruz, is the beneficiary. The Republican leadership are in a deep hurt, desperately trying to force a brokered convention where openly partisan rules changes might tilt the results to a mainstream conservative candidate like Kasich or (persistent rumors) Paul Ryan. Sanders continues to play catch-up quite nicely. Doing well in New York, April 19, and in Maryland and Pennsylvania, April 26, could seriously threaten Clinton's apparent coronation as Queen of the Convention.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
AZPaul3
Unfortunately for Republicans their second major wingnut, Cruz, is the beneficiary... Cruz really is just as much as a wingnut as Trump. I don't want to believe that the normally quite sane voters in a state such as Wisconsin can vote for anyone like that. But, then again, apparently 4 out of 10 Republican voters in that state described themselves as evangelical...
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Phat writes: Good Lord, you are where I've been for around 20 years. I've been voting for what I've thought to have been the least crazy of all the crazy people. In the end all the people I've voted for ended up to be equally ridiculously crazy and also very rich afterwards. (And I vote in 2 different countries!) Whether being in Government or in Opposition. Politicians get very rich. They look after each other. And they stuff normal people. This election gives me an uneasy feeling like no other. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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normally quite sane voters in a state such as Wisconsin
Do you know who are governor is? Do you know about Senator Johnson? Do you realize who we just elected to the State Supreme Court? Many of us have started to refer to the state as Wississippi.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Ugh was just going to mention Scooter and Bradley... How can we vote for Bernie AND Bradley....mind is numb
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