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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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The black bloc was not supporting the protest. They do not advocate progressive ideals. Progressives do not advocate their ideals.
The KKK supports Trump. Trump advocates their ideals. The KKK advocates Trumps ideals. Your comment does not stand up to even cursory review. Want to try again?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
A journalist's report on protests in NYC soon after the election:
I understood immediately that something truly malignant was afoot, whereas most of my liberal friends seemed to think there was nothing that alarming about the nature of these protests. It was said that they were all expressing understandable frustration. To me, they were the PC crowd, one minutesupposedly representing a kinder, more sensitive American dialogue about various issues. And then in a fingersnapthey went all ISIS on us. In one video, there are hundreds of angry young people marching, the males swathed in shemagh scarves in red or black, their lithe bodies bristling with violence seeking an outlet. They looked truly menacing and scary, like terrorists. Fucking piece of shit racist, one of them spits at the person shooting the video. Why he was a racist for shooting the video is not clear. But suddenly everything in America was a piece of shit racist, probably including a Starbucks cup. Donald Trump puppets were burned in effigy. America had officially cracked. This was it.I’m doing a story, I said, to the officer, on the protests. My feeling is there is something off about it all. Well, they’re paid to do this, he said calmly, lifting the barricade to allow two people who showed him ID, into Trump Towers. Soros? I said. He nodded. Yep. I have read that, and I don’t doubt you. But do you know for a fact or do you just suspect? I know for a fact, he said. How do you know? I asked. Intel, he said. Ah. So you guys are briefed in the department? Oh sure. It’s been going on for a long time. I’ve known it for 12 years. Soros pays for all the protests. These people, many of them, don’t even live here. They come in from other states. ... Can I ask you a question? I said to the officer. Isn’t it illegal to fund street protests that force American taxpayers to pay for extra police forces, block off streets, and all this? You’d think so, he said, turning to let somebody through the barricade. My friends on Facebook, my liberal friends, have been mocking me for thinking Soros funds these protests, I said. Is there any earthly chance you could go on the record, at a future time, if we set careful ground rules? Sorry, I can’t. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Absolutely hilarious Faith.
You present a piece that is nothing but innuendo as evidence and in addition from the nutjob Celia Ingrid Farber? Too, too funny.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Have you ever considering thinking?
Personal finance advice: Investing your anti-Trump protest pay quote: Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I anticipated the response here. Of course the mere report of a conversation with a cop is going to be mocked and supposedly "answered" -- with the usual speculations treated as fact. Just business as usual at EvC and wherever liberals/leftists gather. I simply like this woman and like her way of presenting information, which is quite believable. You have to believe the cop made it up to discount it. And there's SO much more out there about Soros' funding protests. If you all weren't listening to the echoes in this dark little cave you might even start to think there could be something to it. But no matter; I like this woman and I believe her report.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That's not the only explanation Faith.
We can think the conversation never happened and that it is all simply stuff she made up just like the discussions reported in the Chick Tracts. You like the woman and she says what you want to hear. It does not matter that the fact is that much of what she publishes is shown to be nonsense by all scientists. AbE: and Faith, no one doubts that George Soros has funded many Progressive functions. Why would that be a problem? Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You all really should be a little more careful about calling everybody you disagree with a liar. Hm?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But I don't call most folk I disagree with liars; only the liars.
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 886 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined: |
You like the woman and she says what you want to hear. It does not matter that the fact is that much of what she publishes is shown to be nonsense by all scientists. A quick search for Celia Farber shows she is an AIDS denialist and has tried to discredit AIDS research and the connection between HIV and AIDS.
AIDS denialism Errors in Farber Article real trustworthy source. HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Having a crackpot opinion doesn't make her a liar.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yup.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And I have not called her a liar. I have always called her a nutjob. As to her alleged conversation with the cop, I simply point out that it is not evidence of anything except the fact that she wrote it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And I have not called her a liar. I have always called her a nutjob. As to her alleged conversation with the cop, I simply point out that it is not evidence of anything except the fact that she wrote it. Woo, WHAT a deep insight. Wow. I didn't claim evidence and I couldn't care less about that typical EvC complaint. Her report is credible. Period. The way you choose to explain her report makes her a liar:Here's what you said in Message 81: We can think the conversation never happened and that it is all simply stuff she made up just like the discussions reported in the Chick Tracts. "Never happened" and "made up" means lied. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 886 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined:
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Having a crackpot opinion doesn't make her a liar. But it does make her a crackpot and since I didn't call her a liar, maybe I think she makes an unreliable source because she is a crackpot. However, I would point out that if someone has difficulty dealing with truth when it comes to an issue like AIDS being caused by the HIV virus, what makes you think they can handle truth in other matters as well. As much as you like 'alternative facts' there really is no such thing. This lady is not just giving her opinion on AIDS nor is she presenting 'alternate facts'. She is presenting FALSE CLAIMS... and someone who presents false claims as truth is what...? HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, there are lots of people who have one or two crackpot opinions who aren't crackpots. I haven't heard her "false claims" but let me guess: they aren't false claims, they are facts as she sees them. Besides, as you know, I consider the entire argument for evolution to be a big fat false claim made up out of mental cobwebs, without a shred of actual --ACTUAL -- evidence.
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