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| Author | Topic: This just in, Wisconsin Senators Pass Bill Pushing Abstinence Over Contraception | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Taz Member  Posts: 5017 From: Zerus Joined: |
http://www.foxnews.com/...rsial-bill-pushing-abstinence-over MILWAUKEE – Wisconsin school teachers would have to promote abstinence and marriage over contraception in sex education classes, under a controversial bill passed by the state Senate on Wednesday night. The Republican-backed legislation was passed 17-15 on party lines and will now head to the GOP-dominated state Assembly -- possibly as early as Thursday, the Wisconsin State Journal reported. Democrats slammed the bill during floor debate, saying it would not give children the information needed to make responsible choices. A state law was passed last year by Democrats, requiring schools that offer sex education to include information on contraception methods. The new GOP-backed legislation would not ban teachers from discussing contraceptives, but would demand they stress abstaining from sex the only reliable way to avoid sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies. "We are trying to back away from the bill passed last year that we feel mandated sex ed that was too nonjudgmental, too explicit and at too young an age," said Republican state Sen. Glenn Grothman. Democratic counterpart Sen. Jon Erpenbach said Wisconsin was "taking a step back to the Flintstone era" with the legislation. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
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Larni Member  Posts: 3559 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 9.0 |
I've ceased being dumbfounded about how conservative the US is. The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong. Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.
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Coragyps Member Posts: 4982 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
Maybe Wisconsin can catch up with Texas on number of teenaged mommies!!
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frako Member (Idle past 0 days)  Posts: 1974 From: slovenija Joined: |
At what age do you people get sex education?? I cant remember well But the first par is arround 8-10 years old where the whole birds and the bees thing is explained, and a few years after that say 10-12 years old you get the whole how to use contraceptives, what contraceptives are available, their availability, and effectives, the effectiveness off "pulling out", sexually transmitted desieses, and stuff like that. And off course that the best protection is abstinence duh. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
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Coyote Member  Posts: 3937 Joined: Member Rating: 9.7 |
I don't consider that "conservative." Attempting to legislate a particular religious belief is more akin to fundamentalism. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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jar Member  Posts: 23384 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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crashfrog Inactive Member
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Why not? It's just the opposite of what liberals want today; by all available evidence that's your operating definition of "conservative."
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Larni Member Posts: 3559 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 9.0 |
I recall getting mechanical sex education when I was in priamry school (about 10 years old). The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong. Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.
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Larni Member Posts: 3559 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 9.0 |
Maybe I should have used a big 'C'. Over here conservatism is inextricably linked with puritanical values, Victorian famliy values, and sticking heads in sand about things. I guess I just always considered the American south as very conservative and conflated English Conservatism with American conservatism. Happy to corrected. The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong. Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.
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Coragyps Member Posts: 4982 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
The problem, Coyote, is that "conservative" and "fundamentalist" have become so entangled through the efforts of people like Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, and 80% of the Republicans in the Texas Legislature that it's difficult to peel them apart. I long for the days of Barry Goldwater, who at least (like yourself) used logic in arriving at conclusions. "Conservative," like "liberal," carries too much baggage to even be a useful word in the USA today. We need to just adopt "Rethuglican" and DemocRAT and call each other ugly names all the time instead of trying to solve our mutual problems.... :-(
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Jon Member  Posts: 3688 From: Minnesota, U.S.A. Joined: Member Rating: 7.9 |
 Love your enemies!
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crashfrog Inactive Member |
BEEP BEEEP YOU WILL NOW RECEIVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE OPERATION OF YOUR GENITAL UNITS Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Member  Posts: 3340 From: Central NC USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.0 |
So you didn't notice that the bill legislates providing bogus mis-information to kids? quote: Apparently the idea is to provide kids a booby-man that won't serve them as adults in the hopes that they won't have sex as teens. What would a tenth grader think if he/she were taught this info and then observed that their parents were using contraceptives to avoid unwanted pregnancies? Kids have plenty of information at their disposal that will let them know that there are contraceptives that work pretty darn well at preventing pregnancy and even STDs when used properly. Wouldn't the requirement to teach a lie be counter-productive? Isn't teaching bogus nonsense going to undercut your confidence in the rest of the stuff you are being taught?
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Coyote Member Posts: 3937 Joined: Member Rating: 9.7 |
I too long for the likes of Barry Goldwater. Scoop Jackson was somewhat similar, as was Alan Simpson. They were all respected for their honesty as well. We could use a few more like them.
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