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Author Topic:   So difficult to keep up! (Re: Memeber of the religious right running morally amuck)
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Message 3 of 221 (427625)
10-12-2007 9:41 AM
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10-12-2007 8:40 AM


was it the chin dildo? i once went to a fetish party and there was this guy in a black and yellow rubber suit with a big black rubber dick bouncing around on his chin. it was so amusing. boingy boingy.
and as to your questions of why i was at a fetish party... it was like a costume ball for me.

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Message 5 of 221 (427635)
10-12-2007 10:14 AM
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10-12-2007 10:10 AM


eh. i promise, i have boring old married people sex. my only fetish is being amazingly adorable! like this morning in the shower i did the kitty cat butt wiggle and jumped on the fiance and huggled him<3

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Message 10 of 221 (427654)
10-12-2007 11:07 AM
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10-12-2007 11:02 AM


Re: Conservative Blogs tell a different story
Its not normal to want to indulge in anal sex.
says who?

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Message 15 of 221 (427662)
10-12-2007 11:13 AM
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10-12-2007 11:10 AM


i see. how interesting. ah well. everything else would have been fine, but that condom... that's gonna send him to hell.

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Message 24 of 221 (427688)
10-12-2007 12:11 PM
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10-12-2007 11:52 AM


Re: Conservative Blogs tell a different story
my uncle will be glad. there's a complete jerkoff who cleared land right up to his property for a shopping center including a "video" store.

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Message 26 of 221 (427690)
10-12-2007 12:16 PM
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10-12-2007 12:15 PM


Re: Nope. Not a chin dildo.
You can find the coroner's report at:
i think i'll pass.

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Message 31 of 221 (427698)
10-12-2007 12:42 PM
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10-12-2007 12:22 PM


Re: Anal sex
some stats.
lit review of child sexual abuse from 1992-2001
about child sex abuse victims
however, this site http://www.stopitnow.com/comquest.html#Q2 says
Statistics show that child sexual abuse occurs at an alarming rate. As many as one in three girls and one in seven boys will be sexually abused at some point in their childhood, according to most reliable studies of child sexual abuse in the United States. (Briere, J., Eliot, D.M. Prevalence and Psychological Sequence of Self-Reported Childhood Physical and Sexual Abuse in General Population . . : Child Abuse and Neglect, 2003, 27 10).) That means that in a class or concert of 100 people, as many as 20 to 30 of those in the room were sexually abused as children.
if we trust the last source, i think it is quite safe to say that 5% of so called straight men have raped a child.
*EDIT*
THIS PART IS A SEPARATE THOUGHT
*/EDIT*
the idea that homosexuality (and other "perversions") is caused by child sexual abuse is an old one and not necessarily debunked as far as i know. now. that's not to say that i believe it, or that ALL homosexuality is caused by it, but it is possible that there are a variety of causes (including inateness) which may be culture-specific. namely, maybe only in the west does abuse and rape contribute to homosexuality. the idea behind this may be that boys who are raped by a man close to them may learn that the only way to receive love from men is sexual. and women who are raped may learn to distrust men. this reaction would of course be related to the ways we treat sex according to gender. it's a very interesting question. but, we know that promiscuity can be related to abuse, so why not other varieties of sexual activity? of course, it must be open to working both ways. maybe someone who was born gay might "turn straight" because he was abused as a child.
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Message 37 of 221 (427719)
10-12-2007 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by molbiogirl
10-12-2007 3:11 PM


Re: Where do homos come from?
When did you choose to be straight?
i'm not straight.
i chose to date my fiance. i chose to date the man i dated before him. i chose to fool around with various (not a large number) men and women throughout my time of experience. i don't trust people whose lifestyle and behavior are based solely on people they tend to have in their beds.
i didn't say it was a choice, and i did discuss innate sexuality, thanks. however, there are lots of psychological factors that may help determine our various activities, including our sexualities. i frankly think we choose our sexual partners in isolation according to factors outside our control and "homosexuality" and "heterosexuality" are labels we define ourself with based on our choices (which aren't so much choices, really).
who we are and what we do in EVERYTHING ELSE can be affected by our life experiences. i'm simply suggesting that it's not entirely insane to think that sexual behavior might, in part, be affected by experiences as well. but to suggest that homosexuality only occurs as a result of child abuse is silly.
bottom line: there's a difference between environmental influences on behavior and choices.
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Message 39 of 221 (427722)
10-12-2007 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by molbiogirl
10-12-2007 3:18 PM


Re: Anal sex
1 in 7 is hardly 5%. It's 14%.
yes. but 5% is less than 14% and obviously included.
Are you suggesting that less than half of the boys that have been raped "choose" to be gay?
i never said chose. you did. i've been here for years and have never said chose. i'm suggesting that being raped affects your personality and potentially your behavior. but that particular point was intended to say that it is more than reasonable to think that 5% of supposedly straight men are rapists.
Anthopological studies have shown that the rate of homosexuality is nearly constant cross-culturally.
just because the rate is the same doesn't necessarily mean that the causes are the same.
Are you suggesting that child-rape is constant cross-culturally?
i don't have that data.
It is well documented that adult M/F rape is vastly underreported.
i agree.
What makes you think that child-rape stats are reliable?
i didn't. i simply found some. they don't even seem to agree with each other. *i* would assume that they are underreported as well. thus, the numbers here are safely a minimum.

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Message 40 of 221 (427724)
10-12-2007 3:35 PM
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10-12-2007 3:25 PM


Re: Anal sex
I trust them.
i do as well. i was discussing a theory that others have held and the possibility that environmental factors *might* have an effect on various kinds of behavior. we *know* that sexual abuse can cause promiscuity. wanting to get laid can also cause promiscuity. the presence of the one does not nulify the other. one source of non-strictly-heterosxual behavior is likely innate desire. another source may be factors that affect the ability to trust and be close to certain people.

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Message 41 of 221 (427725)
10-12-2007 3:36 PM
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10-12-2007 3:30 PM


lol oops. but still.

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Message 43 of 221 (427729)
10-12-2007 3:53 PM
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10-12-2007 3:46 PM


Re: Cross cultural causes
i think you may have a similar problem with underreporting. also, what about people who are primarily "straight" but have had partners of the same sex? what about instilled institutions of such bahaviors? how about people who consistently date members of one sex but settle down with a member of the other sex (whether it's the same as theirs or not)? how about bisexuality? do you include these in your numbers?
attraction may well be genetic. behavior may not neccessarily be.

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Message 53 of 221 (427743)
10-12-2007 4:35 PM
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10-12-2007 4:25 PM


Re: Cross cultural causes
I think it's a reach to speak of "institutions" when referring to cross-cultural research that includes hunter-gatherers.
i meant institution in that marriage is an institution. also, what keeps hunter-gatherers from having institutions? also, the greeks were a bit more than hunter-gatherers and they had QUITE an institution. (is that your university, or are you just happy to see me?)
Our enthnocentric view of "gender" and "sexuality" is limited, at best.
i don't think i have an ethnocentric view of gender or sexuality. or rather, i don't have a view of gender, and i think sexuality is an individual behavior that occurs in isolation from labels and "orintations" and lifestyles.
There are societies that recognize 3 "genders": male, female, and "other" (gay men and women).
i am quite aware.
This is evidence that a genetic predisposition toward same-sex relations is recognized by non-Western
i'm not disputing that there is probably a genetic predisposition to "homosexual" behavior. i am disputing that this predisposition is the only ruler of behavior. there seems to be a genetic predisposition to alcoholism (i'm not equating the two on a value-basis, i just can't think of anything warm and fuzzy right now. i thought this was a better option than breast cancer, but you could easily interchange the two or any other genetically predisposed thing.), but there are other potential factors and alcoholism may or may not occur to that individual. to discuss cancer, i'm sure there is a chance that an individual may have a genetic predisposition to a variety and get that variety for a completely different reason. but we don't know much about the causes of cancer, so that's really besides the point.

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Message 55 of 221 (427746)
10-12-2007 5:01 PM
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10-12-2007 4:41 PM


Re: Cross cultural causes
generally, nobody looks good in a wetsuit.

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Message 69 of 221 (427877)
10-13-2007 9:52 AM
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10-13-2007 6:48 AM


Re: Anal sex
do you dispute this? cause that's cute.

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