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Author Topic:   Origins of the Judeo-Christian god and religion
ohnhai
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Message 211 of 282 (309545)
05-05-2006 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by Faith
05-05-2006 9:56 PM


Re: False Gods
faith writes:
This idea that they were just other people's gods and valid for THEM has no support in the Bible at all.
Of course the bible doesn’t support the validity of other gods! It was written to support it's particular religion and in turn re-enforce that religion's god.
Strewth. To assume otherwise would be like expecting Microsoft to extol the virtues of Mac OSX and or Lunix in their own Manuals for XP. It not going to happen. Microsoft is out to push its brand as much as the Bible is out to push its.
It is just, you are so slavishly committed to this one brand you have bought into the propagandas ”word for word’ that when you are told that your god is the one true god you except that blatant and obvious propaganda as self evident truth.
Come on Faith. Wake up and smell the spin.

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ohnhai
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Posts: 649
From: Melbourne, Australia
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Message 214 of 282 (309549)
05-05-2006 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by arachnophilia
05-05-2006 11:40 PM


Re: False Gods
this argument works exactly as well for the bible as it works for microsoft. in other words, tell that to my 20 year old macintosh, that has a copy of microsoft word on it.
And lo, the Word of The great God Bill was heard even in the land of heathens. Bill saw this and thought it good.

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ohnhai
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Message 216 of 282 (309554)
05-06-2006 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by arachnophilia
05-05-2006 11:54 PM


Re: False Gods
but the Blue Screen of Death will come as a thief in the night; in which Microsoft Windows shall pass away with a great noise, and the Hard Drive shall melt with fervent heat, the RAM also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The mighty BSOD is his divine punishment for daring to doubt in his supreme infalibility.

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ohnhai
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Message 219 of 282 (309566)
05-06-2006 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Faith
05-05-2006 9:58 PM


Re: The revisionist pattern
Yahweh is no ordinary god. He is utterly different from the kinds of gods people invent -- and people DO invent gods, all the others.
As you freely admit, people do invent their gods. You even state that all but one are the invention of the human mind. That is quite a large list of gods you dismiss as mear inventions. Click here to see How vast that list truly is.
Now: how do you actually justify the claim that out of all the gods listed on that site, that you freely assert are simple inventions of humans, that the one and only the one you happen to believe in is the only one that isn’t equally an invention of the human mind?
If the MANY THOUSANDS of deities, that you don’t believe in, are in fact fictional entities then the odds are overwhelmingly in favour that yours God is also a fictional deity. It’s just that you happen to believe he is real, just as the followers of ALL those other gods believed their god/s were real.

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ohnhai
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Message 224 of 282 (309582)
05-06-2006 3:21 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by Faith
05-06-2006 1:46 AM


Re: The revisionist pattern
Faith writes:
The God of the Bible is different, totally different, God of Gods over all the gods of the earth, judges all the other gods, and all the rest of them are similar to each other -- yes, millions of them really.
Faith writes:
Throughout the Bible Yahweh is presented not as just some tribal God but as the God over the whole earth. Take it or leave it.
“Our god is SOOOOO much better than your god. Look, look here in this book we wrote to tell you how super he is. See? It says he is so super and the one true god. Wow! Isn’t that great? Praise the Lord: how else could a book we wrote confirm our beliefs so utterly if it wasn’t all divine truth!?”
Faith writes:
There's no point in arguing this with you.
Why? Why is there no point? Is it because I refuse to take the words in the bible as true because those very same words tell me they are true?
GOD writes:
I here by state that this is the undeniable word of god, and not to be gainsaid by any man. You will suffer no truths other than what is written here. So sayeth the Lord God.


Ohnhai, is the son of God returned to judge you all


Yours Truly,
GOD
Do you believe? Do you take that as self evident truth? Does the fact it clearly states that what is written is the true word of god, hold no sway with you? No? Why not?
Hang on . just noticed something.
Faith writes:
. God of Gods over all the gods of the earth, judges all the other gods . yes, millions of them really.
Previously on Faith Radio .
Faith in post 200 writes:
. the kinds of gods people invent - and people DO invent gods, all the others
{my bold}
So you have changed you mind as to the existence of all other gods? Seems that way. So: why the switch? Would you prefer to let all the other - lesser - gods exist under the dominion of your god, rather than decry this extended pantheon as ”utter fiction’ due to the real questions that doing so naturally raises as to the validity of your own god’s existence as anything other than fiction?

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ohnhai
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From: Melbourne, Australia
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Message 236 of 282 (309628)
05-06-2006 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by Faith
05-06-2006 9:23 AM


Re: The revisionist pattern
I have not switched anything. I've said all along that some gods are merely invented.
Not wanting to come over emotional or belligerent, I do humbly have to ask you to re-read your post (#200, of this thread) You clearly state that “ . people DO invent gods, all the others”. To me, at least, this is a clear statement that you believe all gods other than your own are inventions. Then in #220 you call your god ”God of Gods” and give him jurisdiction “over all the gods of earth”, this is a clear statement that you believe that these other gods exist.
So which is it?

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