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johnfolton 
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Message 12 of 105 (385576)
02-16-2007 10:15 AM
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02-14-2007 6:39 PM


Trees can replicate without germination
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Many forests cannot germinate without fires to provide heat or smoke for the seed to produce germination. Since no forests exist such germination is impossible to accomplish.
Not true, It rained down thus it was a fresh water flood, 40 day flood, its a perfect situation for replication of trees because a seed is not needed when pieces of roots is an easy way to duplicate parent plants.
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Root Cuttings
Grow It! : Episode GRW-210 -- More Projects
Q: What's an easy way to multiply plants?
A: One easy way to replicate perennial plants is to take root cuttings. Simply pull a piece of the root up and clip it off. (This won't hurt the parent plant since it's sufficiently large and well established). Cut the root into two- or three-inch pieces. Each piece will become a duplicate of the parent plant.
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Message 16 of 105 (385591)
02-16-2007 11:44 AM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Cut the root into two- or three-inch pieces. Each piece will become a duplicate of the parent plant.
I notice, Charley, how they recommend always soaking the cuttings in water for five months...........
Its called hydroponics, meaning the floating mats of vegetation would of still would of been producing leaves food for the creatures even 5 months after the fresh water flood.
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Plant physiology researchers discovered in the 1800s that plants absorb essential mineral nutrients as inorganic ions in water. In natural conditions, soil acts as a mineral nutrient reservoir but the soil itself is not essential to plant growth.
Hydroponics - Wikipedia

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Message 19 of 105 (385598)
02-16-2007 12:07 PM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Again you apparently have no understanding of what salt does to plant growth. And you are clearly ignoring that being extendedly submerged in brine water kills virtually all plants. No live root = No method of duplication.
The fresh water washed back to the oceans because salt ocean water basins were lower than the continents. The fresh water flood would of pressed back against the oceans because its elevation was lower than the continents. It would take a long time for the salt water over the oceans to mix with the freshwater rising up over the continents.

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Message 21 of 105 (385600)
02-16-2007 12:18 PM
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02-16-2007 11:49 AM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Have you ever tried to mix salt water with fresh water? Ever noticed how the top tastes just as salty as the bottom after you mixed it? It's called a homogeneous mixture. And no, it's not a 40 day flood. It rained for 40 days and 40 nights. It took another year for the water to recede to a safe level.
It says it took a year before it was safe to travel on the earth, not that the water had not yet receded to a safe level. That the waters decreased continually for them 10 months means that it didn't start becoming salty till after the freshwaters mixed with the oceans waters.

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Message 23 of 105 (385602)
02-16-2007 12:27 PM
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02-16-2007 12:16 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This is a wind-up isn't it? you are not seriously presenting that as a solution are you?
I just see it all as "a part" of what was happening given it was a freshwater flood over the continents. Perhaps a little salty on the edges, etc...

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Message 24 of 105 (385603)
02-16-2007 12:30 PM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
This poster is a troll and does not engage in rational or honest debate. Answer at the risk of wasting your time.
Elevation wouldn't prevent the rapid mixing of salt and fresh water, especially if the fresh water came from rain.
Were talking thousands of miles separating the oceans, osmosis happens but not that fast, the waters washed off the continents, etc....
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Message 29 of 105 (385612)
02-16-2007 12:38 PM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
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Wow. You actually are suggesting that it rained only over the continents.
No, but it only rained 40 days then it receeded continually. I like Osmosis but it needs to be in the near vicinity of the fresh water. You seem to believe the ocean water lifted up and was depositing over the continents, that not what said happened. It said it rained 40 days then it receeded continually for 10 months not that the oceans receeded over the continents, etc...
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Message 31 of 105 (385616)
02-16-2007 12:49 PM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
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And how long do you think it took for the salt water to mix in with the fresh water?
Freshwater tends to float upon salt water not sure how long over the oceans it would take to mix with the fresh water. Do you?
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Message 35 of 105 (385663)
02-16-2007 6:00 PM
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Re: Trees can replicate without germination
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Well, I don't think anyone knows for sure on such a scale. How about a guestimate? Would you say that it would take over 10 months for complete mixture? Or perhaps only a few months or a few weeks?
It appears salinity will never equalize but tends to stratify based on salt waters density being expressed with increases in salinity with increases in depth.
There never was a salinity problem over the continents that would inhibit the hydroponic expression of the floating mats of vegetation that repopulated the earth with vegetation after the flood waters had subsided.
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Salinity affects seawater density and thus influences ocean water layering. Other factors held constant, increasing the salinity of seawater causes its density to increase. High salinity seawater generally sinks below lower salinity water. This leads to layering of water -- or stratification -- by salinity.
Although salinity generally increases with depth (<<<), there is a distinct layer where salinity increases sharply called the Halocline.
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Message 37 of 105 (385685)
02-16-2007 8:00 PM
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02-16-2007 7:34 PM


Re: Trees can replicate without germination
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There never was a salinity problem over the continents that would inhibit the hydroponic expression of the floating mats of vegetation that repopulated the earth with vegetation after the flood waters had subsided
So what about the trees I mentioned in the OP Charley? Care to explain hydroponic flotation of entire forests?
As the flood waters washed off the earth they concentrated the vegetation in the massive fossil deposits, them coal, peat and oil deposits. It also was responsible for the repopulation of near the entire biomass that survived the biblical deluge aboard these floating islands of vegetative debris, etc...
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"The genesis Flood removed vast amounts of living biomass" ... "organic material that now forms the earth's vast coal, oil and oil shale deposits. A conservative estimate for the pre-Flood biomass is 100 times that of today." ref: Impact #364, "Carbon Dating Undercuts Evolution's Long Ages" by John Baumgardner, October 2003. (The Institute for Creation Research)
Does the distribution of coal deposits refute the vapor canopy theory? Does plate tectonics provide the answer?
Or perhaps even one little ol' redwood tree?
Yes, The little ol' redwood tree that is so impervious to disease that once grew over the whole world as evidence in all the worlds coal deposits is now only located on the Western Americas is strong evidence that the World flood near extinction of these trees.
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As trees such as the bristlecone pines and the redwoods are still living after 4,000 years or more, and seem impervious to the normal problems of trees, it is conceivable that they could live another 4,000 years or longer”a total of 8,000 years! Why then, are none found much older than 4,000 years?
Missing Link | Answers in Genesis
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