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Message 292 of 295 (574408)
08-15-2010 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-10-2009 1:45 PM


Is this story from Steve Palmer how it starts for most evangelicals?
i find asking this question on a secular scientific board quite humorous.
for some evangelists, using hell is appropriate because they want to save souls from the torment that is coming BUT most seek to show that an unsaved person is in need of a savior and if hell is mentioned it is because it is part of the facts and you do not hide the facts from those you are trying to convert.
you do not lie or hide information and Jesus did not thus the christian cannot do less than that.

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archaeologist
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Message 294 of 295 (578398)
09-01-2010 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by Bailey
08-15-2010 8:29 PM


Re: On Preaching Fire and Brimstone
none of our popular concepts of hell can be found in Joshua's teachings.
that i snot true and using the hebrew word for Jesus does not lend itself to communication or you any credivbility.
Jesus talked about hell in Mt. 10:28, 18:9, 23:15, 23:33, Mk. 9:43, 45,47; Lk 12:5, 16:23 plus it is discussed in James, 2 peter and Revelation
so hell is firmly talked about and gives an exact description of what it will be like. plus other words are used as well, like 'lake of fire, etc.,)
the redactor
this is a weak attempt by you and other secular scholars to make the Bible a human book. if the dead sea scroll sdid anything, it showed that many copyists were listening to the Holy Spirit and they did not change one word in the Bible.
yes we have those that altered the Bible but they were not believers of followers of God.
Roman Universal Church
there is and was no suchthing as the Roman universal church.
if you are referring to the RCC then say RCC but do not falsely imply that the RCC was the only church in exitence, it was not.
{crickets, crickets}
this almost stoppe dme from responding to you. if ou cannot be realistic then i won't respond in the future. in reading your post i see you are not a true christian and do not have the understanding of the Bible thatthe Holy Spirit provides. God is very clear thatunbelievers do not grasp biblical teachings. you may be jewish but it stillapplies because they reject Jesus as the messiah.

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archaeologist
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Message 295 of 295 (578399)
09-01-2010 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by Bailey
08-15-2010 8:29 PM


Re: On Preaching Fire and Brimstone
Also, in order to better understand Joshua's first use of Gehinnom within the Sermon on the Mount, you may do well to consider the pronouncement attributed to Yochanan the Immerser at Matis 3:11,12 where it is written, "I baptize you with water, for repentance, but the one coming after me is more powerful than I am — of whom I am not worthy to carry his sandals. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.".
Now consider - was this 'fire' the same fire that Malachi earlier spoke of in his booklet, as well as, the fire later referenced by Joshua ?
exact references are required for both references or links to same. oh an di am not impressed because you chose to write the hebrew versions of their names.
you do not grasp biblical teaching as the fire mentioned by john the baptist is not the same as hellfire.

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