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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
ochaye writes:
quote: And we can determine that you're telling the truth because of what, precisely? Two-thirds of the world think you're lying. Why should we believe you over them? Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:What if they are? Surely it's not breaking a commandment, whereas saying there is a hell and then denying it makes a mockery of this whole discussion, because people who do that can't be Christians. But you lot don't give a damn. America has no shame: "I've got bullets, shells and rockets, I don't need moral authority, you fool!" You guys can write all you like, but you count for nothing in the real world. You can fool yourselves that you do, I suppose. Dream on. Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:With that scarce commodity, common sense. By checking the posts I commented on. It has been admitted that most who call themselves Christians tell lies. So they cannot be Christians. Surely it takes very little brain to work out that much.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
How does one "minister" without emotional manipulation to a child regarding something so significant as belief in god when they haven't even managed to acquire post-operative logic? Fair enough, Rrhain, but in all fairness when does a parent or a teacher technically not indoctrinate a child? If young minds are generally impressionable, where lies the critical difference between instruction and indoctrination? Parents inevitably rub off on their children and to some degree at least initially. Even if parents want their child to be free and independent critical thinkers and don't want to highly influence their children's beliefs, at some point the children are going to anyway. "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samual Adams
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
where lies the critical difference between instruction and indoctrination? When the child is told "This is the absolute truth, you cannot question it," as I was told at the age of 5. Edited by bluescat48, : missing word. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
You guys can write all you like, but you count for nothing in the real world. You can fool yourselves that you do, I suppose. Dream on. Being condescending probably won't do much to win hearts to Christ! "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samual Adams
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:What the skeptical position amounts to on this issue, though I'm sure they mostly don't realise it, is that Christians shouldn't have children. A theme worthy of Herr Adolf indeed.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Let us know if someone is that.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:By a Christian, in your view?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
When the child is told "This is the absolute truth, you cannot question it," as I was at the age of 5. So just as long as they can question what truth is, then someone can instruct and it would not be considered indoctrination? That sounds more than reasonable, I would say. "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samual Adams
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Let us know if someone is that. Duck, duck, goose! Tag you're it! Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given. "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samual Adams
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
Sounds like indoctrination, to me.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Sounds like indoctrination, to me. Good comeback... I like it! "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samual Adams
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
ochaye responds to me:
quote:quote: That you don't understand why that is a bad thing is quite telling. Playing off of the emotions of people, manipulating them into doing things they would not rationally do, is one of the slimier things that people do to each other.
quote: Huh? Who is denying hell? You seem to think that because someone doesn't share your vision of what "hell" is, that means it is being denied. You do understand the distinction between difference and denial, yes?
quote: Oh, so you've been given divine knowledge as to what it means to be a "true Christian"? There are plenty of Christians who disagree with you. Why should we believe you over them? Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5270 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Is bad-mouthing with inventions the only tactic you have? It's getting boring. quote:Read the thread before posting. quote:So lying is ok? Most decent citizens don't think so. If the sentences that contain the word 'you' in Rrhain's posts were to be snipped, would there be much left? Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.
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