Does intelligent design have creationist roots?

Hi everyone - I recently registered and have spent a few weeks lurking and trying to get a feel for how things are done here before posting.I think ID's creationist beginnings are self-evident. While the general notion might have appeal that stretches beyond Christianity, it's not possible to convincingly argue that the contemporary phenomenon (for lack of a better term) came from anywhere but Christianity.At the risk of commenting off-topic, I wish ID proponents would make attempts at turning the idea into a scientific one. Make some predictions, run some experiments and have the results peer-reviewed. Help show that ID can be more than thinly veiled Creationism.Please?

Theodoric wrote:

But they can't do that. That would expose it for what it truly is

On some level, I agree with you; it's highly unlikely that they will try. On the other hand, it might be really interesting to see them honestly do so.In the few places I've discussed this stuff, the conversations quickly go beyond the expertise of the average anonymous debate geek (myself included). For example, wouldn't it be interesting to try to define "higher intelligence"? If we're supposed to be seeing evidence that creation was created by someone/something far surpassing our intellect, what exactly can we point to? How would we identify alien intelligence, let alone divine intelligence?There must be disciplines which have already worked on questions like this. When NASA sent Voyager out with that gold record containing images, sounds and messages from humanity, they must have given some thought to what kinds of tools/understanding a peer or higher level of intelligence might have access to.ID proponents should actually try to point to very specific things that represent the hallmark of a creator God. Irreducible complexity was a nice try, but it failed.edit: sorry, this is definitely off-topic.Edited by Whateverman, : No reason given.