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nwr
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Message 47 of 110 (264583)
11-30-2005 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Christian7
11-30-2005 8:57 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
I would like to see you achieve what the creator had by creating the simplest cell without design but by setting conditions.
If jar could do that, it would provide evidence that a cell could arise by design.
Since you apparently believe that jar could not do that, then you have evidence against the design hypothesis.
Granted, the evidence at this stage is too weak to settle the issue. I'm just pointing out that your argument does not in any way support your claim.

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nwr
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Message 80 of 110 (264873)
12-01-2005 7:21 PM
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12-01-2005 5:26 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
That's not a reasoned statement.
Sure it is.
Anything composition of elements that exist in the natural world can be designed.
This you assert, but without proof. It remains uncertain.
Not being able to design something is not evidence against design.
Sure it is evidence. It is not proof, and I never claimed that it is proof.
I can't assemble a television set. Does that means I have evidence that the television was not designed?
It is evidence, but rather weak evidence. You have eliminated yourself as a possible designer.
In your statement about cells, I took you as implicitly saying that no person can design a cell. That eliminated a lot of possible designers, so it was stronger evidence. I'll grant that it was not conclusive. But it does indicate that you were appealing to an unknown designer, so it makes it that much harder for you to demonstrate design.

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nwr
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Message 85 of 110 (264918)
12-01-2005 10:15 PM
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12-01-2005 9:59 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
Think about it, along time ago, we couldn't make air planes, televisions, computers, etc. Yet, they were possible and designable.
Yet, at the same time we were making babies but not designing them, animals were making baby animals but not designing them. The babies differed a little from their parents. So evolution seemed to be going on without requiring a designer.
I personally know the designer and his name is Jesus Christ, the son of God, and God himself.
That's okay. Many people, including many evolutionists, agree with that.
The argument isn't over whether we are designed. The argument is over whether ID is science.
However your argument, the argument for this thread, is over whether we are designed, and so far you haven't provided any persuasive evidence.

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Message 87 of 110 (264926)
12-01-2005 10:43 PM
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12-01-2005 10:25 PM


Watch those nutso crazy ideas
OK, well close this topic because I just got a nutso crazy wac idea that I am about to post in the proposed new topics.
We can leave the thread open, in case you decide to come back to it.

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