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Author Topic:   Ground Zero Mosque - Tolerance, Racism or Comedy?
Dr Adequate
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Message 20 of 200 (582830)
09-23-2010 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
09-23-2010 11:50 AM


I think where it falls flat is that there are already gay bars, lingerie stores, people selling pork, et cetera, in the general vicinity of practically every American mosque. And you never, ever, ever, hear any American Muslims complaining about it.
They are being "tolerant". They're being so tolerant that you never notice them being tolerant and nor do they.
Meanwhile, a real non-imaginary bunch of actual loonies are actually getting all worked up about the non-mosque which is not in any way being built on Ground Zero.
When you see any American Muslims raising a similar howl about someone selling ribs, let me know.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 55 of 200 (583582)
09-28-2010 3:53 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Tram law
09-27-2010 6:49 PM


Sometimes generalizations are true.
Such as when many liberals react to white conservative Christians (Sarah Palin for example), and the Christians opposing Park 51 and other Community Centers across the nation.
That would be intolerance of jerks. The fact that Palin and many of the protesters are white and Christian has nothing to do with it. You might s well complain that liberals are intolerant of women called Sarah and people with placards. No, just jerks. Some of whom are called Sarah and/or have placards.

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Message 60 of 200 (583683)
09-28-2010 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Tram law
09-28-2010 1:27 PM


Thank you for your petulant and inaccurate generalizations. The amusing impudence of your hypocrisy has brightened my day.
Here's a thought for you:
Tram law writes:
For me there is only one true way to take the moral high ground. If you find a certain behavior deplorable, don't do it.
You, by that token, appear to be standing in what can be best described as a moral pit. And you're digging.
And yes, I know, this will seem hypocritical to some as well, but I don't much care what people think of me.
How very fortunate for you. And for anyone with a sense of humor who happens to encounter you.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 62 of 200 (583693)
09-28-2010 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Tram law
09-28-2010 2:17 PM


And people can't stand it because they know they're being wrong, period.
Either that or you can't read minds; and the amusement you cause amongst others is neither something that they find hard to stand nor caused by an appreciation of their own errors.
Being right is incredibly serious business.
Being a pompous hypocrite, on the other hand, has a certain comedy value.
I also will not let people use my own morality against me.
If by this cryptic phrase you mean that you're a hypocrite, I think we've noticed.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 68 of 200 (583718)
09-28-2010 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Tram law
09-28-2010 2:38 PM


All you're doing is proving my points for me.
I hardly see how that can be so --- unless, of course, you are a diverse group of people with heterogeneous views, in which case I apologize to them unreservedly for the unjust and offensive imputation that they all think like you.
I must've really touched a nerve to get you this riled up.
Or, back in the real world, you must have really amused me to elicit this amount of humorous derision.
You are taking this way too personally so it must be true.
It is indeed me "personally" mocking your hypocrisy. Such tasks, I feel, are not best handled by a committee. Were one formed, I should decline to be a member.
How this leads you to believe that this unnamed "it" must be true is beyond my powers of conjecture. I can read your posts --- you alone have the doubtful pleasure of reading your mind.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 91 of 200 (584368)
10-01-2010 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by onifre
10-01-2010 12:01 AM


Re: Targetting "The Line"
What line? All you're scenario tells me is that the person writing material like that, although they may find it funny, is a dick in my opinion.
But that is the line. We're not discussing when people should be silenced or jailed for tasteless and unsuccessful attempts at humor, no-one has advocated that. We're discussing when people should be considered dicks.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 108 of 200 (584451)
10-01-2010 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Tram law
10-01-2010 7:36 PM


Re: Targetting "The Line"
You should just stop assuming that these things are going to be hurtful.
Just stop assuming that everybody will feel the same way.
STOP ASSUMING, STOP GENERALIZING, and stop repeating the same question over and over again.
It's up to each individual. If it's hurtful to them then it's crossing the line. If it's not hurtful to them then it is not crossing the line.
And one shouldn't just assume things. Assuming things is what makes problems worse.
But don't you see that we are obliged to make certain assumptions?
If you hold your hand out as if to be shaken, then I will assume that you want me to shake your hand.
I might be wrong. You might really want me to club you unconscious and drag you off to my Underground Lair, where you will awake to find that I have attached electrodes to your genitals ...
It is perfectly plausible that that is what you really want, and yet I am obliged to behave as though what you actually want is for me to shake your hand.
i am obliged to treat you as though you were psychologically average. Anyone having weird abnormal desires has to ask.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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