States petition for secession

I ask again: What do you mean by "minority rights?" It's STUPID to give any kind of POWER to a competing ideology that wants the founding ideology dead.The sad thing is that Protestants were once the majority in the US, the backbone of the nation. We no longer even have "minority" rights, our free speech that we were supposed to have been guaranteed is being steadily eroded, the right to practice our religion has practically been defined out of existence and so on. This is why I am playing with the possibilities of starting a new state where its Christian identity is specifically protected.You are really really deluded about the Vatican. But so is just about everybody these days. I've only been learning what a real threat they are to world peace in the last few months myself. Maybe as long as a year, not sure.You are not going to live in my Puritan state so what are you complaining about? Why not let Christians have a state to ourselves?Here's a good talk about the situation in Ireland by the way, not just anti-Catholic, pretty balanced I'd say. Skip the first 14 minutes to get to the subject: Layman's History of the Conflict in IrelandEdited by Faith, : No reason given.

How insanely bizarre.It's you and your faction who are forcing your views on us.And if we had our own state then you'd be free of us, but perversely you won't even consider it.

Another twisted pack of lies.

19 supposed witches were killed in Salem in a hysterical flap that was stopped by the clergy.The Roman Church PAPACY ITSELF OFFICIALLY murdered thousands of witches during the six centuries of the Inquisition along with 50 million Christians and almost 17 million Jews, Muslims and sundry others including the witches, but you're all so propagandized into believing it's all the same, such distinctions mean nothing to you. In fact ideologically you HAVE to believe it, you simply cannot process the actual facts. It would shatter your prejudices to have to recognize such facts.OH AND THE INQUISITION IS NOT OVER. The Rwanda genocide was basically the Inquisitiobn. I posted a video about that. And in Catholic countries ongoing all the time Catholis are being stirred up to attack Protestants Inquisition style. I blogged on a prayer request about such an event going on in Mexico recently, Catholics attacking the Protestant Mayans. And the fact that it is the IRA in Ireland that instigates all the killing there, and I just posted a link to a talk on that too, is part of the same picture.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

People here have actually proposed the equivalent of ignoring the Constitution as outdated, just shrugging it off as a piece of trash basically, without caring whether it is modified according to its own rules or not.And why, just because you hate the second amendment, that's the reason at the moment, and your opinion is the only one that matters, it's really no concern to you that half the nation supports it.Yet you call me a traitor although I defend the Constitution as the law of the land. Yes I would love the opportunity to see it rewritten or amended to make it the Christian document it should have been based on the majority opinion of Americans at that time but I nevertheless treat it as law not to be ignored.What a bunch of lying propaganda you've swallowed and promote.I don't recall YOU objecting to those traitorous anti-Constitutional posts.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The fact is you can't, not in any sense or to any degree or caused by any intent that could possibly compare. Again, it's just that you feel you MUST believe that it's all equal. It isn't. But there is plenty of propaganda out there to help you think so. And it doesn't even occur to you that's what it is.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Stop lying.

Might be something to that Virtual State idea because it would free us from each other's ideology and from having to pay taxes to support it. Only you seem to imagine the same government in Washington. I do think we need different governments.

Na I don't want to not see or talk to the blues, most of my family belongs to that sorry camp. But I would like not to be subject to their politics or even get into discussions about it.

Not at all curious if you note the context of what I said. Don't want to discuss it with FAMILY, Rahvin, makes for family discord dontcha know. Don't want to be subject to liberal politics of course, no matter whose.

This is one major reason I want out from under this government. The first amendment was intended to PROTECT a Christian's right to teach our children our Christian principles but it's been perverted into the exact opposite meaning. Bleagh. Now we've got exactly what it meant to prohibit, CONGRESS making laws against religious practice and expression, while the right that is not to be infringed is totally infringed. Not even Congress really, the Supreme Court usurping the place of Congress, making laws and calling it interpreting the Constitution. The Government anyway, encroaching on the very freedoms the amendment told it to keep its dirty paws off. Yeah, I really really want out from under this nightmare government. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Haven't disowned a one of them, why would you think I had?

Right on, we'll fund our own schools. But as I said, we do need a completely separate seat of government, I don't think there's any way around that. This virtual idea, while it has its points, wouldn't work long, we really do need to have a few states secede or split the nation somehow.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Separate governments would imply completely separate nations, not two governments within the same territory.As somebody mentioned way back there somewhere, RAZD probably, people could exchange properties from one region to another so as to be under the form of government they prefer. If a region decides to reconstitute itself as fullblown red -- or blue -- those of the opposite political persuasion currently within its borders would have the option of remaining under the new form of government with all its inconveniences from their point of view, or moving, exchanging property being probably the best way of doing that.I was hoping others would come up with creative ideas about how to bring it about, but so far it looks like nobody thinks it's feasible at all. Well, I don't either really, but I can think of some ways such as the above that could be considered.

Right, that's the excuse for eliminating Christianity altogether from the schools, which I along with many others consider a violation of the original intent of the amendment, an interpretation which would have come as a complete shock to the original Christians of the nation who stupidly believed it promoted Christianity in the schools and certainly protected their children from alien views. Now we have a sort of secularist religion being taught to our children which undermines Christianity but it's not called a religion so that's OK according to the secularist mindset. I really don't care how you rationalize all this, I don't think it reflects the intent of the amendment, I hate it and want out from under it.