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1.61803
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Message 19 of 152 (696458)
04-16-2013 10:45 AM


It is so cowardly and pathetic to target people who are innocent.
Whom ever perpetrated this will either do it again or be caught.
They have a system that works and now will be bolstered to do it again.
This I fear is the start of a serial bomber. Lets hope our FBI earns their paychecks this month and gets this kook.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

  
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Message 25 of 152 (696522)
04-16-2013 2:39 PM


I have the AP phone app. It came across the wire that one of the bombs was a pressure cooker that did have ball bearings for schrapnel in it.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

  
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Message 49 of 152 (696611)
04-17-2013 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by jar
04-17-2013 11:12 AM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
Jar writes:
If we are smart, maybe possibly even wise though, we should look at and understand what motivated them and see if we shouldn't change our behavior.
Absoultley not. The terrorist is hoping for just that.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 63 of 152 (696628)
04-17-2013 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by NoNukes
04-17-2013 11:34 AM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
Hello NoNukes, I think we agree.
I meant that if we as a society cave in to terrorist then they have accomplished their goal.
Nothing can be done really to stop someone from doing something evil and heinous. But should that stop Americans from having marathons, or having large organized sporting events?
Let's not spend money on detecting guns on planes because that's what the terrorists want us to do? Does that make sense to you?
No this makes no sense. We have to do what we must to deter and hopefully prevent acts of terror.
I meant we as a society should not change our ideology simply because we want to appease a certain group who will resort to violence to achieve a goal.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 67 of 152 (696639)
04-17-2013 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Phat
04-17-2013 12:09 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
I was stationed in Germany in the mid 1980's as a soldier.
Being from a free society like America, I was not use to the counter terrorist measures being employed in central Europe airports and train stations. I am talking submachine guns ,dogs and searches. ( "your papers please.")
But you must understand that was a way of life over there.
Red Army Faction and IRA and a host of other groups had changed that society to be more wary.
We here in the US did not get our wake up call until
September 11, 2001. The US will never be the same.
We lost our naivety that day.
We know now that a free society is always at risk to have violence perpetrated against them.
It is a trade off between being free or being safe. We choose freedom. I can not express how pissed I am over Boston.
I believe this will unite our country more than tear it down.
Just look at how the Yankees played Sweet Caroline hosting the Red Sox!

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 77 of 152 (696719)
04-18-2013 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by jar
04-18-2013 12:47 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
They were unable to prevent the bombing.
How can you stop someone from doing such a thing in a open venue? The bombs where in sports bags. People everywhere.
Unless you search every person and bag you will not be able to stop such a thing. This is not a reflection of the current administration.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 81 of 152 (696734)
04-18-2013 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
04-18-2013 1:05 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
"Look, the government cannot and will not protect you." then it points out that government is ineffective to protect you.
I dont know if this makes sense. Sound kinda wishy washy.
If the message was I cannot make a decent pastry does that mean I am ineffective to make a decent pastry?
I think the wording should be the government is unable to protect it's citizens from violence if by doing so means we must relinquish our freedom.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 84 of 152 (696744)
04-18-2013 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by xongsmith
04-18-2013 1:58 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
xongsmith writes:
This is what it will be next year....
And we substitute a little more of our freedom for safety..
Hell life itself is dangerous. I live about a hour away from the city of West Texas. pretty much the whole damn city went up last night like a fire cracker due to a anhidrous N plant fire.
Edited by 1.61803, : No reason given.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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