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Theodoric
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Message 37 of 124 (707249)
09-25-2013 9:25 AM
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09-25-2013 6:26 AM


perform in situ studies
in situ has many uses but I do not think this is a correct use of the term.
It is used more to describe a physical setting not a temporal one. I have never heard of it used in a temporal sense. I could be wrong.
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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 103 of 124 (707798)
10-01-2013 9:50 AM
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10-01-2013 2:13 AM


Does it really encourage free thinking to hold the same views as someone who has convinced you, without investigating yourself? Or is it not just indoctrination (for lack of a better word)?
So advocating and encouraging religious views is perfectly fine, but doing the same with nonreligious views is not?
One side puts children starting at infancy in church pews, reads them stories from the bible before they can read, the other side publishes books and lectures.
What one is indoctrinating?
You certainly seem to be suffering from Christian Persecution Syndrome.
could likely be the source of most of the Atheist, Abiogeneisis views.
Wow!! That comment is ridiculously asinine. For two reasons. Atheism has been around a hell of a lot longer than either of them. As a matter of fact I think it is quite safe to say the vast majority of atheists were atheists before they even heard of these guys. I would also venture to guess that a plurality of atheists have no idea who they are. There are a lot of atheists that have very strong disagreements with dawkins.
Secondly, WTF does Abiogenesis have to do with atheism?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 104 of 124 (707799)
10-01-2013 9:56 AM
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10-01-2013 7:08 AM


. What about moral standards held between atheists e.g. lying, stealing, polygamy etc.
You are insulting as well as ignorant.
What group is more represented in the prison population? Atheists or religious?
What group is most known for advocating polygamy? Atheists or a religion based in Utah?
I am familiar with Gauteng area of SA. Unfortunately, the fundies hold incredible sway there.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 106 of 124 (707802)
10-01-2013 10:01 AM
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10-01-2013 9:27 AM


I suggested the possibility of Atheist divergence/denomination on the basis of including their sexual orientation, diet, abortion views, Drug habits, education level etc.
But those are views that are no different than views religious people have. Why would the atheists be broken out these ways?
Again, atheism is simply not having a belief in a god or gods.
In my University we could get along quite well without ever mentioning our beliefs about the world, faith, religion etc., unless prompted to do so.
So it is like every place else.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 107 of 124 (707803)
10-01-2013 10:03 AM
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10-01-2013 10:01 AM


Re: Wrong yet again.
Wars and damage to society is cannot be attributed to religion alone.
Of course not but it has been the overwhelming cause historically. Atheism has had very little influence in anything historically.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 111 of 124 (707810)
10-01-2013 10:23 AM
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10-01-2013 10:17 AM


In other words all you are doing is spouting crap?
A sophomoric Gish Gallop?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 112 of 124 (707811)
10-01-2013 10:25 AM
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10-01-2013 10:22 AM


nor arrogant.
ignorant not arrogant.
not sure..
Maybe you should research before you spout crap?
not sure...
You have the internet. Research.
I am not sure what you are implying with this statement.
You obviously have been indoctrinated by the fundies of that area.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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