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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Nothing beats a honest concise answer. Welcome back Eta
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
daaaaaBEAR writes: It is compiled midrash from ancient judiac traditions and babyalonian mythology mixed with gnostic and christian writings cannonized by the Catholic church and touted as the word of God. It is a message of what ever one cares to tweeze out of the text. Salvation, damnation, redemption, condemnation. It's a message of salvation for our fallen world.creation, destruction. As the tele-evangelist says: "Get that credit card out, I know your already in debt...but you must sow that seed of faith says the Lord." The bible says what people want it to say, and what ever message they wish to deliver. IMO. "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
No one knows where the energy came from. And more importantly, what exactley is energy?
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Hi Vash:
Vash writes:
Heh, a even better question is : Is a BEFORE the Big bang even possible considering time did not exist prior to the event. Were there laws concerning matter and conservation of energy before the big bang? "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Phillip writes:
Well,,,concidering that time is an expression of space no.
Do you not miscalculate or oversimplify relativistic theory stating: "time did not exist prior to the event"Phillip writes: Ummm...no. I speculate that you are introducing dogma.
Do you speculate (dogmatically) your universe is just a finite space-time continuum?Phillip writes: I am only aware of one universe that exist. Multi-universe theory, brane theory, and what ever other theories one cares to postulate are fun and interesting but in the end my puny universe seems to be mysterious enough.
Or, worse, that no other universe(s) could possibly exist beyond my puny universe?Phillip writes: I do not believe in fairies nor the devil. So if you are hearing whispers from such entities I suggest you seek psycological medical care. *edit to correct quote. Why must science-fairies (AKA, devils) so tenaciously whisper to us "curesd ignoramuses" that our "visible" universe is so "flat-earth-like"? This message has been edited by 1.61803, 05-26-2005 10:34 AM "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Ok not a very useful post. I am perplexed by that statement concidering the post I was responding to was not very useful either. Nor is the one I am responding to now.
AdminNosy writes:
And with that I suggest that my statement is just as valid as yours or anyones elses then. And I think my statement is very clear...how can time exist in the absence of space?
Your first line isn't very clear and I suspect is wrong since we are not at all clear on what time is.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Hi Phillip, I like that song.
I will be a little clearer. Time may be just another example of natures tendency to merge the properties of the universe as with electricity and magnatism, energy and mass. Space and time. Time...does it exist in a vaccum? If nothing is moving, if there is no matter, no energy, no space then how can time exist? If the universe was once less than plankes size and TIME was once less than Plankes time then it is speculation on all counts what precedes those two measurements. But I believe that time was a result of big bang.Since the big bang at it's orgin was a singularity then in the absence of space,energy/matter there was no time. Once the event occured the concept of time as a component to the universe began, along with space, and matter. It is merely my own beliefs, no dogma I promise. Take care.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Hi, string theory has several versions which one do you believe "best describes" the world?
I personally find string theory very difficult to wrap my head around. How convienant, planke size strings are the fundamental element that manifest matter.But string is impossible to test because one can not observe something that IS the limit of size. So string theory what does it tell us if it can never be verified? And this concept of a one dimentional string? That just seems silly. The very idea of something being one dimentional escapes me. Try it..just try to imagine something one dimentional. No width, No Length, Just Height? and existing in no space/time dimention? I just cant imagine it. A planke size, one dimentional string vibrating in multiple dimentions unifying the 4 fundlemental forces of the universe and manifesting matter as quantum foam. Sounds just as good as Genesis and I don't mean Phil Collins. "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Well I do not have a degree in theoretical physics so I will leave the interpretations to those who can digest it.
SST, Open, Closed,M-Theory,Brane theory and all the others is based on a fundlemental one dimentional strings with tensions and vibrations that manifest bosons, quarks and sub atomic particles in various configurations of loops and dimentions that seems to postulate how reality behaves. This is based on how the mathmatics can be manipulated to give the answers one is seeking. The fact that the string is (in theory) Plankes length and mass and one dimentional side steps many problems of the quantum world and GR altogether. The complexity of String theory and the complex Cabela-yau shapes and S-matrix manifolds and all the tremendous energies and tensions required are only adequately understood mathmatically and it would take some time to get a handle on the math. BUT.....I guess what I am saying is I do not fully understand String theory and hope for our sakes the universe is not as complex and unfantomable as String suggest. Someone once said that the ability to describe a concept in simplistic terms is directley proportionate to ones understanding of the concept. That being said I bow out of any further discussion of String theory and am content to wait until there is someone, somewhere who can bring the subject into the bounds and confines of my simple mind. Brian Greene did not do it for me... and I read his book twice. **yawn** Personally I am of the opinion that any theory that evades being tested is psuedoscience. edited to add punctuation for Phillp. This message has been edited by 1.61803, 06-10-2005 02:49 PM "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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