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gene90
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Message 60 of 101 (22776)
11-14-2002 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by John
11-13-2002 2:43 AM


[QUOTE][B]What is ironic is that the NT mentions Tyre as a functioning community, thereby rubbing salt in old Ezekial's prophetic wounds.[/QUOTE]
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It says that it would be better for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgement than for some.
I see several possible interpretations of that. (For example: Which Tyre? Historical or contemporary?)
The problem with prophecies (Chara) is that they can be used to support religious views you probably do not subscribe to. I can think of Mormon prophecies that appear to have come to pass.
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gene90
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Message 63 of 101 (22803)
11-14-2002 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by mark24
11-14-2002 6:03 PM


Administrators of the LDS church are considered living prophets. Also, The Doctrine and Covenants has what is thought to be a prophecy foretelling the US Civil War, and the World Wars.
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Needless to say this is always a hot topic between members and critics. And of course, now it is interpretation after the fact!
Of course, it's all very circumstantial. I don't think you can use a prophecy to prove a religion is correct. I think Nostradamus got very close a couple of times but I don't believe he had any prophetic abilities.

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gene90
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Message 79 of 101 (24615)
11-27-2002 12:16 PM
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11-27-2002 10:27 AM


[QUOTE][B]then what does it mean when someone undergoing brain surgery while still awake (local anesthesia) describes euphoric religious feelings when a certain part of their brains are stimulated?[/QUOTE]
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Maybe it means you should deny the existance of surgeons as well.

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gene90
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Message 84 of 101 (24851)
11-28-2002 8:04 PM
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11-28-2002 10:36 AM


[QUOTE][B]These mystical experiences have a physical basis, so claiming that all mystical feelings are from a supernatural source, like God, is a bit premature.[/QUOTE][/B]
I'm not claiming all mystical feelings came from God, so this is a strawman.
And perhaps someone can explain why the UBB code is not working. HTML and UBB are on.
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gene90
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Message 86 of 101 (24852)
11-28-2002 8:05 PM
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11-28-2002 10:39 AM


[QUOTE][B]Gee, you haven't done a lot of reading about brain function, have you?[/QUOTE][/B]
You glossed over his point with an attack on his background. Great tactic.
What if he's right?

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