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Phat
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Message 3 of 162 (451350)
01-27-2008 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Evolution
01-26-2008 9:19 PM


Makes More Sense
Hello.
Dr Evolution writes:
But logically I think that a cloud of hydrogen gas coming from no where is more believable than a super God coming out of no where.
Really?
See, to me, an eternally existing Creator makes more sense than eternally existing matter.
I suppose, however, that eternally existing anythingis impossible for us to quantify and thus, fathom...however.

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Phat
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Message 5 of 162 (451357)
01-27-2008 12:53 PM
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01-27-2008 12:16 PM


Re: Makes More Sense
Taz writes:
you can insert just about any supernatural fantasy in there to replace the word god.
I don't believe it for a minute. People always use that argument to gloat about the fact that humans can create the Deity of their choice.
This has nothing to do with the Deity that IMB actually exists. But if you want to go around laughing at the whole God concept, be my guest.
Try explaining the purpose of an eternally existing universe with no intelligence beyond evolved intelligence. And while you are at it, try postulating how far intelligence will eventually evolve.
The only thing you probably will end up concluding is that making babies is our highest calling in life.

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Phat
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Message 7 of 162 (451361)
01-27-2008 1:13 PM
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01-27-2008 1:05 PM


Re: Makes More Sense
Rahvin writes:
The Universe can simply exist, without any purpose whatsoever.
So can God. Its all about belief, since we admittedly have no way of knowing--at least in a way we can explain to others.
Rahvin writes:
"Purpose" is a human concept, not a property of nature.
Some would also assert that God is a human concept. Its possible that He isn't, however. Thats why this thread is in Faith/Belief.
If you believe in strict evolution, you will believe that intelligence and logic have either evolved along with humans...or you will believe that logic existed even before people could define it with words and theorems.
Why not extend the same courtesy to the possibility that God exists?

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